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                    <description>This week on Rising Up for Justice,  Dr. Judy Lubin, founder and president of the Center for Urban and Racial Equity (CURE) joins us.</description>
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<p>FEATURING KRISTIN POWELL - <em>The Trump Administration’s Equal Opportunity Employment Commission recently sent a </em><a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/03/31/nx-s1-5763966/eeoc-trump-white-men-civil-rights-dei-discrimination?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>letter</u></em></a><em> to Fortune 500 companies warning against hiring employees with the goal of increasing Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. The EEOC office has been accusing institutions of discrimination against white people and is currently investigating Nike for anti-white bias.</em></p><p><em>As we come upon the sixth anniversary of the historic racial justice protests in the wake of George Floyd’s murder at the hands of police in Minneapolis, the Black Futures Lab is readying a launch of its third </em><a href="https://blackcensusproject.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Black Census Project</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Kristin Powell is the Executive Director of </em><a href="https://blackfutureslab.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Black Futures Lab</em></a><em> and </em><a href="https://black2thefuture.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Black to the Future Action Fund</em></a><em>, which exists to advance Black grassroots and political power. With over a decade of community organizing experience, she has led winning justice campaigns and developed organizers nationwide. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the third </em><a href="https://blackcensusproject.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Black Census</em></a><em>. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, it seems so bizarre that we have a federal government today that is doing its best to not just reverse course on the advances, the modest advances that were made toward racial justice, but is actively promoting white people, very explicitly throwing its weight behind affirmative action for white people. But I suppose we shouldn't be terribly surprised. How do you respond to the state of affairs today where the federal government is championing whiteness so overtly?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kristin Powell:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. I don't think it's bizarre. I think it's the playbook. If you have ever read the book "White Rage" by Carol Anderson, she goes through every point in history where Black people in America, where Black people have made any sort of racial justice progress, there is a white rage backlash that comes in a fury, and we're seeing that again.&nbsp;</p><p>We saw that after the Great Migration, we saw that after Reconstruction, we saw it after Brown versus Board of Education, and we're seeing it again. And so even though that is the playbook, it's still infuriating that we have not just a government that is anti-Black, but that doesn't believe it works for its own people, and is escalating fascist policies that is creating a dictatorship that we didn't ask for.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING KRISTIN POWELL - <em>The Trump Administration’s Equal Opportunity Employment Commission recently sent a </em><a href="https://www.npr.org/2026/03/31/nx-s1-5763966/eeoc-trump-white-men-civil-rights-dei-discrimination?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>letter</u></em></a><em> to Fortune 500 companies warning against hiring employees with the goal of increasing Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. The EEOC office has been accusing institutions of discrimination against white people and is currently investigating Nike for anti-white bias.</em></p><p><em>As we come upon the sixth anniversary of the historic racial justice protests in the wake of George Floyd’s murder at the hands of police in Minneapolis, the Black Futures Lab is readying a launch of its third </em><a href="https://blackcensusproject.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Black Census Project</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Kristin Powell is the Executive Director of </em><a href="https://blackfutureslab.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Black Futures Lab</em></a><em> and </em><a href="https://black2thefuture.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Black to the Future Action Fund</em></a><em>, which exists to advance Black grassroots and political power. With over a decade of community organizing experience, she has led winning justice campaigns and developed organizers nationwide. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the third </em><a href="https://blackcensusproject.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Black Census</em></a><em>. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, it seems so bizarre that we have a federal government today that is doing its best to not just reverse course on the advances, the modest advances that were made toward racial justice, but is actively promoting white people, very explicitly throwing its weight behind affirmative action for white people. But I suppose we shouldn't be terribly surprised. How do you respond to the state of affairs today where the federal government is championing whiteness so overtly?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kristin Powell:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. I don't think it's bizarre. I think it's the playbook. If you have ever read the book "White Rage" by Carol Anderson, she goes through every point in history where Black people in America, where Black people have made any sort of racial justice progress, there is a white rage backlash that comes in a fury, and we're seeing that again.&nbsp;</p><p>We saw that after the Great Migration, we saw that after Reconstruction, we saw it after Brown versus Board of Education, and we're seeing it again. And so even though that is the playbook, it's still infuriating that we have not just a government that is anti-Black, but that doesn't believe it works for its own people, and is escalating fascist policies that is creating a dictatorship that we didn't ask for.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING KRIS HENDERSON - <em>The State Supreme court of Pennsylvania has just </em><a href="https://theappeal.org/pennsylvania-supreme-court-life-without-parole-felony-murder/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>struck down</u></em></a><em> mandatory life sentences for felony murder convictions. Justices determined that a mandatory life sentence, “absent an assessment of culpability,” violates Pennsylvania’s constitution.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>A felony murder conviction doesn’t mean the person convicted is directly responsible for a death, for someone can be convicted of a felony murder even if their actions indirectly and unintentionally resulted in someone’s death. Currently, more than a thousand people are serving such life sentences in Pennsylvania, and more than two thirds of them are Black.</em></p><p><em>Kris Henderson, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Director of </em><a href="https://amistadlaw.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Amistad Law Project</em></a><em>. They are a movement lawyer, and a founding member of the </em><a href="https://cadbiwest.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Coalition to Abolish Death By Incarceration</em></a><em>, and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how the victory was won and what it means. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, before we get into the actual decision itself, let's talk about the person whose case was at the heart of this particular case, who is a man named Derek Lee, who has been serving a life sentence, but whose direct actions did not cause the death that the particular case involved. Tell me about Derek’s story.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kris Henderson:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. I think that one of the things about felony murder, I think a lot of people don't realize, is that many people did not kill or intend to kill anyone. They were involved in a felony and someone died or was killed at some point during that situation. And then under Pennsylvania law, people have been able to be convicted of felony murder. And in Pennsylvania, up until now, the mandatory minimum has been life without parole for felony murder.&nbsp;</p><p>And Mr. Lee was one of these people who was involved in a felony, and someone died over the course of that felony, not as a direct cause of his actions, and still he was serving life without parole for felony murder, or as we call it, death by incarceration.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING KRIS HENDERSON - <em>The State Supreme court of Pennsylvania has just </em><a href="https://theappeal.org/pennsylvania-supreme-court-life-without-parole-felony-murder/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>struck down</u></em></a><em> mandatory life sentences for felony murder convictions. Justices determined that a mandatory life sentence, “absent an assessment of culpability,” violates Pennsylvania’s constitution.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>A felony murder conviction doesn’t mean the person convicted is directly responsible for a death, for someone can be convicted of a felony murder even if their actions indirectly and unintentionally resulted in someone’s death. Currently, more than a thousand people are serving such life sentences in Pennsylvania, and more than two thirds of them are Black.</em></p><p><em>Kris Henderson, Co-Founder and Co-Executive Director of </em><a href="https://amistadlaw.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Amistad Law Project</em></a><em>. They are a movement lawyer, and a founding member of the </em><a href="https://cadbiwest.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Coalition to Abolish Death By Incarceration</em></a><em>, and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how the victory was won and what it means. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, before we get into the actual decision itself, let's talk about the person whose case was at the heart of this particular case, who is a man named Derek Lee, who has been serving a life sentence, but whose direct actions did not cause the death that the particular case involved. Tell me about Derek’s story.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kris Henderson:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. I think that one of the things about felony murder, I think a lot of people don't realize, is that many people did not kill or intend to kill anyone. They were involved in a felony and someone died or was killed at some point during that situation. And then under Pennsylvania law, people have been able to be convicted of felony murder. And in Pennsylvania, up until now, the mandatory minimum has been life without parole for felony murder.&nbsp;</p><p>And Mr. Lee was one of these people who was involved in a felony, and someone died over the course of that felony, not as a direct cause of his actions, and still he was serving life without parole for felony murder, or as we call it, death by incarceration.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING KHURY PETERSEN-SMITH -<em> President Donald Trump is very </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/31/world/middleeast/trump-europe-iran-criticism.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>upset</u></em></a><em> that European nations such as Britain and France have thus far refused to join the US-Israel war on Iran that Europe never asked for.&nbsp; His angry words, “Go get your own oil,” came in the wake of reports that Spain had closed its airspace to US warplanes headed to Iran.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Meanwhile, Trump has threatened to bomb</em><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/30/trump-threatens-to-blow-up-all-desalination-plants-in-iran?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u> Iran’s desalination plants</u></em></a><em>, which is civilian infrastructure that millions of Iranians rely on for water. Under international law it is illegal to hit civilian targets in war, but that hasn’t stopped the US and Israel from bombing </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/11/us/politics/iran-school-missile-strike.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>schools</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;The Trump administration is now reportedly weighing whether to start a </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/31/us/politics/trump-iran-ground-war.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>ground war in Iran</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;</em></p><p><a href="https://act.ips-dc.org/ips_author/khury-petersen-smith/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Khury Petersen-Smith</u></em></a><em>, Michael Ratner Middle East Fellow and the Co-Director of the New Internationalism Project at the </em><a href="https://ips-dc.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Institute for Policy Studies</u></em></a><em>. His specialty is U.S. militarism in the Middle East and in the Pacific, and movements that resist it. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the state of the war. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;This war, as I mentioned, nobody asked for other than Israel, seems to have no real clear aim, and Trump has created deadlines and then extended them. He's issued threats. He's claimed Iran is already decimated, and has a two-week timeline for wrapping it up, or two-month timeline for the entire war. Every day it seems as though something different comes up. Can you make sense of it? Is there any rhyme or reason, not that war is ever logical or rational, but can you make any rhyme or reason of Trump's and Netanyahu's aims?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Khury Petersen-Smith:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. It's an important question. I will say that there has been a longstanding desire by a section of the US elite to have a war with Iran, and that includes Donald Trump himself, who as early as said that the US should send troops to Iran in response to the hostage crisis of 1979.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, there's this kind of conversation now that this war came out of nowhere. And on one hand it was certainly an unprovoked war, but on the other hand, at least for the past two decades, since the post-9/11 wars, and especially around the US invasion of Iraq, there was a very serious conversation in Washington about invading Iran as well.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING KHURY PETERSEN-SMITH -<em> President Donald Trump is very </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/31/world/middleeast/trump-europe-iran-criticism.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>upset</u></em></a><em> that European nations such as Britain and France have thus far refused to join the US-Israel war on Iran that Europe never asked for.&nbsp; His angry words, “Go get your own oil,” came in the wake of reports that Spain had closed its airspace to US warplanes headed to Iran.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Meanwhile, Trump has threatened to bomb</em><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/30/trump-threatens-to-blow-up-all-desalination-plants-in-iran?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u> Iran’s desalination plants</u></em></a><em>, which is civilian infrastructure that millions of Iranians rely on for water. Under international law it is illegal to hit civilian targets in war, but that hasn’t stopped the US and Israel from bombing </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/11/us/politics/iran-school-missile-strike.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>schools</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;The Trump administration is now reportedly weighing whether to start a </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/31/us/politics/trump-iran-ground-war.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>ground war in Iran</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;</em></p><p><a href="https://act.ips-dc.org/ips_author/khury-petersen-smith/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Khury Petersen-Smith</u></em></a><em>, Michael Ratner Middle East Fellow and the Co-Director of the New Internationalism Project at the </em><a href="https://ips-dc.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Institute for Policy Studies</u></em></a><em>. His specialty is U.S. militarism in the Middle East and in the Pacific, and movements that resist it. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the state of the war. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;This war, as I mentioned, nobody asked for other than Israel, seems to have no real clear aim, and Trump has created deadlines and then extended them. He's issued threats. He's claimed Iran is already decimated, and has a two-week timeline for wrapping it up, or two-month timeline for the entire war. Every day it seems as though something different comes up. Can you make sense of it? Is there any rhyme or reason, not that war is ever logical or rational, but can you make any rhyme or reason of Trump's and Netanyahu's aims?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Khury Petersen-Smith:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. It's an important question. I will say that there has been a longstanding desire by a section of the US elite to have a war with Iran, and that includes Donald Trump himself, who as early as said that the US should send troops to Iran in response to the hostage crisis of 1979.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, there's this kind of conversation now that this war came out of nowhere. And on one hand it was certainly an unprovoked war, but on the other hand, at least for the past two decades, since the post-9/11 wars, and especially around the US invasion of Iraq, there was a very serious conversation in Washington about invading Iran as well.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING MARCO GUZMAN - <em>Lawmakers in the state of Washington just passed a </em><a href="https://itep.org/washington-millionaires-tax-working-families-tax-credit-sb-6346/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>9.9% tax on yearly incomes of more than a million dollars</u></em></a><em>. The new law, which Gov. Bob Ferguson has promised to sign, would affect about 20,000 households in the state and will become the state’s first income tax. Washington is among nine states nationwide that does not tax incomes, making its reliance on sales and property taxes regressive. Currently the bottom 20% of households pay a higher percentage of their incomes in taxes compared to the wealthiest 1%. The new law is expected to earn the state nearly $4 billion a year.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Marco Guzman is a Senior Analyst at the </em><a href="https://itep.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy</u></em></a><em> where he provides research and analysis to help support state policymakers across the country. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the newly passed tax and what it means for Washington and other states. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, I didn't honestly realize that Washington didn't have an income tax. Before we get into what this new tax is all about, can you give us a sense of how Washington's tax structure has been designed? I gave just a brief outline of it, but how is it that the state has managed to fund the things it needs without an income tax all these years?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Marco Guzman:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. Washington actually did have an income tax in 1932, but the state Supreme Court in 1933 quickly overturned it. They said that they qualified money as being property and said you can only tax property at a uniform rate, and the tax that had passed was a tax on graduated rates, or a graduated rate tax. And so, they quickly overturned that.&nbsp;</p><p>So yeah, Washington has been without an income tax since 1933. They do have, again, sales and excise taxes that they levy. They have a business and occupations tax, which is their tax on gross receipts of business income, and then property taxes as well.&nbsp;</p><p>So, they do have taxes that they do levy, but no income tax, because it was constitutionally prohibited. So, they've been kind of in a bad spot. They find themselves, as you mentioned, with a very regressive tax system that places much of the tax burden on lower and middle income households than it does folks in the top 1%.</p>
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<p>FEATURING MARCO GUZMAN - <em>Lawmakers in the state of Washington just passed a </em><a href="https://itep.org/washington-millionaires-tax-working-families-tax-credit-sb-6346/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>9.9% tax on yearly incomes of more than a million dollars</u></em></a><em>. The new law, which Gov. Bob Ferguson has promised to sign, would affect about 20,000 households in the state and will become the state’s first income tax. Washington is among nine states nationwide that does not tax incomes, making its reliance on sales and property taxes regressive. Currently the bottom 20% of households pay a higher percentage of their incomes in taxes compared to the wealthiest 1%. The new law is expected to earn the state nearly $4 billion a year.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Marco Guzman is a Senior Analyst at the </em><a href="https://itep.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy</u></em></a><em> where he provides research and analysis to help support state policymakers across the country. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the newly passed tax and what it means for Washington and other states. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, I didn't honestly realize that Washington didn't have an income tax. Before we get into what this new tax is all about, can you give us a sense of how Washington's tax structure has been designed? I gave just a brief outline of it, but how is it that the state has managed to fund the things it needs without an income tax all these years?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Marco Guzman:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. Washington actually did have an income tax in 1932, but the state Supreme Court in 1933 quickly overturned it. They said that they qualified money as being property and said you can only tax property at a uniform rate, and the tax that had passed was a tax on graduated rates, or a graduated rate tax. And so, they quickly overturned that.&nbsp;</p><p>So yeah, Washington has been without an income tax since 1933. They do have, again, sales and excise taxes that they levy. They have a business and occupations tax, which is their tax on gross receipts of business income, and then property taxes as well.&nbsp;</p><p>So, they do have taxes that they do levy, but no income tax, because it was constitutionally prohibited. So, they've been kind of in a bad spot. They find themselves, as you mentioned, with a very regressive tax system that places much of the tax burden on lower and middle income households than it does folks in the top 1%.</p>
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<p>FEATURING ANDY ROWELL - <em>The US-Israel war on Iran has thrown the oil-based global economy into a tailspin. In retaliation for airstrikes, Iran has been </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/03/24/world/middleeast/strait-of-hormuz-difficulties-iran-trump.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>targeting ships in the Strait of Hormuz</em></a><em>, the narrow waterway abutting Iran and Gulf Arab states through which oil tankers pass. Not only is the war sending </em><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/24/the-worst-ive-seen-oil-industry-grapples-with-the-fallout-from-trumps-war-with-iran-00841820?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>oil prices skyrocketing</em></a><em>, it’s also impacting the price of transported goods that rely on oil-fueled shipping.</em></p><p><em>Meanwhile, our reliance on fossil fuels is manifesting in extreme temperatures everywhere including in the US where </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/12/weather/snow-cold-rain-forecast-east-coast-whiplash.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>frigid weather on the East Coast</em></a><em> was followed by a </em><a href="https://weather.com/forecast/regional/news/2026-03-23-march-record-heat-wave-southwest-plains-california-arizona-0?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>record breaking heat wave</em></a><em> on the West Coast.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Andy Rowell is an editor for </em><a href="https://oilchange.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Oil Change International</em></a><em> in addition to working as a freelance writer and investigative journalist who specializes in environmental, health and lobbying issues. He is an honorary research Research Fellow at the University of Bath and has </em><a href="https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/iran-war-fossil-fuels?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>written</em></a><em> about how the US-Israel war on Iran is highlighting the </em>vulnerability<em> of a global oil-based economy.&nbsp;He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how a decentralized renewable energy economy could reduce incentives for war. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT:  </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;You just wrote an article called "<a href="https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/iran-war-fossil-fuels?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">Trump and Israel's War on Iran Once Again Exposes the Folly of Fossil Fuel Dependence</a>." So, take us through that logic. Iran is one of the world's major oil producers, but there are plenty of other oil producers as well: Russia, the US also produces its own oil. We have Venezuela. Why is this particular war exposing how dependent the global economy is on this one narrow waterway?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Andy Rowell:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, fundamentally, the oil and gas industry is an international integrated industry. And you might think that consumers in the US, if you listen to President Trump, it's like, "Hey, we're energy independent, and that energy's going to stay in the US." Well, of course it's not. It gets exported. And so, it's a global industry. And a fifth of the world's oil and gas passes through the Strait of Hormuz every single day.&nbsp;</p><p>So suddenly, a fifth of that oil has been switched off, that the tankers can't go through. And you've also got the added problem that because of the threats to mainly Saudi Arabia and the UAE, that basically they are no longer producing. And so, you've got the world's energy watchdog the International Energy Agency calling this the worst crisis in living memory for the oil and gas industry. This is worse than the ’73 price shock and the 2022 Ukraine war combined.&nbsp;</p><p>So, it's complete crisis. And once again, it shows the folly of being... It's nonsensical that you and I, as global consumers, not only is the price of gas rising, but the price of food will rise. And everything is so interlinked because we're so dependent on fossil fuels, and that's this 20 -mile strait of Hormuz.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ANDY ROWELL - <em>The US-Israel war on Iran has thrown the oil-based global economy into a tailspin. In retaliation for airstrikes, Iran has been </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/03/24/world/middleeast/strait-of-hormuz-difficulties-iran-trump.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>targeting ships in the Strait of Hormuz</em></a><em>, the narrow waterway abutting Iran and Gulf Arab states through which oil tankers pass. Not only is the war sending </em><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/24/the-worst-ive-seen-oil-industry-grapples-with-the-fallout-from-trumps-war-with-iran-00841820?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>oil prices skyrocketing</em></a><em>, it’s also impacting the price of transported goods that rely on oil-fueled shipping.</em></p><p><em>Meanwhile, our reliance on fossil fuels is manifesting in extreme temperatures everywhere including in the US where </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/12/weather/snow-cold-rain-forecast-east-coast-whiplash.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>frigid weather on the East Coast</em></a><em> was followed by a </em><a href="https://weather.com/forecast/regional/news/2026-03-23-march-record-heat-wave-southwest-plains-california-arizona-0?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>record breaking heat wave</em></a><em> on the West Coast.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Andy Rowell is an editor for </em><a href="https://oilchange.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Oil Change International</em></a><em> in addition to working as a freelance writer and investigative journalist who specializes in environmental, health and lobbying issues. He is an honorary research Research Fellow at the University of Bath and has </em><a href="https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/iran-war-fossil-fuels?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>written</em></a><em> about how the US-Israel war on Iran is highlighting the </em>vulnerability<em> of a global oil-based economy.&nbsp;He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how a decentralized renewable energy economy could reduce incentives for war. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT:  </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;You just wrote an article called "<a href="https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/iran-war-fossil-fuels?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">Trump and Israel's War on Iran Once Again Exposes the Folly of Fossil Fuel Dependence</a>." So, take us through that logic. Iran is one of the world's major oil producers, but there are plenty of other oil producers as well: Russia, the US also produces its own oil. We have Venezuela. Why is this particular war exposing how dependent the global economy is on this one narrow waterway?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Andy Rowell:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, fundamentally, the oil and gas industry is an international integrated industry. And you might think that consumers in the US, if you listen to President Trump, it's like, "Hey, we're energy independent, and that energy's going to stay in the US." Well, of course it's not. It gets exported. And so, it's a global industry. And a fifth of the world's oil and gas passes through the Strait of Hormuz every single day.&nbsp;</p><p>So suddenly, a fifth of that oil has been switched off, that the tankers can't go through. And you've also got the added problem that because of the threats to mainly Saudi Arabia and the UAE, that basically they are no longer producing. And so, you've got the world's energy watchdog the International Energy Agency calling this the worst crisis in living memory for the oil and gas industry. This is worse than the ’73 price shock and the 2022 Ukraine war combined.&nbsp;</p><p>So, it's complete crisis. And once again, it shows the folly of being... It's nonsensical that you and I, as global consumers, not only is the price of gas rising, but the price of food will rise. And everything is so interlinked because we're so dependent on fossil fuels, and that's this 20 -mile strait of Hormuz.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING BRANDON WOLF - <em>Over the past year, two major national mobilizations under the banner of “</em><a href="https://www.nokings.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>No Kings</u></em></a><em>” have brought hundreds of thousands of Americans to city streets to protest the dictatorial administration of Donald Trump. Now, the third such mobilization takes place March 28.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Brandon Wolf is an LGBTQ+ civil rights and gun safety advocate, bestselling author, and survivor of the 2016 mass shooting at Pulse Nightclub in Orlando. He currently serves as National Press Secretary for the </em><a href="https://www.hrc.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Human Rights Campaign</em></a><em>. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what people can expect at the marches.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How do you assess the success of the first two No Kings mobilization? It's always tough to sort of measure the impact of a gathering because you can't necessarily tell that this or that policy changed because of it, but do you have any measurements to suggest that those two mobilizations that came before were indeed successful?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Brandon Wolf:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, I think I'm most excited by the growth of the No Kings Coalition. Both, the organizations that have been helping to plan events across the country, and also the number of people that have shown up. If you think about it, back in October, there were 7 million people that took to the streets in this country.&nbsp;</p><p>And then you saw that energy only continue to grow as people fought back in places like Portland and Minneapolis. You had millions of people turning out to the streets of Minneapolis to push back against ICE occupation of their communities. And that was in the freezing, bitter, maybe even historic cold, for some communities.&nbsp;</p><p>When we hosted our Eyes on ICE training, which is teaching people how to spot ICE in their communities and warn others, inform others of what rights they have , 200,000 people showed up for that training on a weeknight, which just tells you how powerful the movement is when it can not just show up in the streets one day, but can sustain that kind of energy over time.&nbsp;</p><p>So, if you can imagine 7 million people in the streets in October, you had millions of people on the streets in Minneapolis pushing back against ICE in the bitter cold. You can imagine how large that will be on March 28.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING BRANDON WOLF - <em>Over the past year, two major national mobilizations under the banner of “</em><a href="https://www.nokings.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>No Kings</u></em></a><em>” have brought hundreds of thousands of Americans to city streets to protest the dictatorial administration of Donald Trump. Now, the third such mobilization takes place March 28.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Brandon Wolf is an LGBTQ+ civil rights and gun safety advocate, bestselling author, and survivor of the 2016 mass shooting at Pulse Nightclub in Orlando. He currently serves as National Press Secretary for the </em><a href="https://www.hrc.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Human Rights Campaign</em></a><em>. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what people can expect at the marches.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How do you assess the success of the first two No Kings mobilization? It's always tough to sort of measure the impact of a gathering because you can't necessarily tell that this or that policy changed because of it, but do you have any measurements to suggest that those two mobilizations that came before were indeed successful?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Brandon Wolf:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, I think I'm most excited by the growth of the No Kings Coalition. Both, the organizations that have been helping to plan events across the country, and also the number of people that have shown up. If you think about it, back in October, there were 7 million people that took to the streets in this country.&nbsp;</p><p>And then you saw that energy only continue to grow as people fought back in places like Portland and Minneapolis. You had millions of people turning out to the streets of Minneapolis to push back against ICE occupation of their communities. And that was in the freezing, bitter, maybe even historic cold, for some communities.&nbsp;</p><p>When we hosted our Eyes on ICE training, which is teaching people how to spot ICE in their communities and warn others, inform others of what rights they have , 200,000 people showed up for that training on a weeknight, which just tells you how powerful the movement is when it can not just show up in the streets one day, but can sustain that kind of energy over time.&nbsp;</p><p>So, if you can imagine 7 million people in the streets in October, you had millions of people on the streets in Minneapolis pushing back against ICE in the bitter cold. You can imagine how large that will be on March 28.&nbsp;</p>
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                    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 07:00:18 -0700
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<p>FEATURING "KENNY" - An anonymous artists collective in Los Angeles has recently been plastering buildings across the city with powerful graphics that send a strong political message. Except that the images leave no trace, for they are graphic projections of imagery and video.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://www.vjaybombs.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">VjayBombs</a>, as the collective is named, mocks billionaires, politicians, police and especially ICE agents.&nbsp;One of its members going by the name "Kenny," spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the art and what's behind it. </p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Joining me now is Kenny, one of VjayBombs’ members. To protect his identity, we're obscuring his video feed for our TV audience. Welcome to the program, Kenny.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kenny:</strong>&nbsp;Hi. How you doing?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Doing well. Thank you so much for joining us. It is really interesting to see some of these visuals on buildings. I confess I haven't seen them in person, but I've been seeing them online on your Instagram feed and if folks have been showing up to protests in LA, especially in the evenings, they might have seen some of your art. Describe for people who are unfamiliar, people who are outside LA what your art looks like.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kenny:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, so we go out with a large venue projector and we do a little pop-up art show. Most of our work is kind of in the style of like a stencil. It's very basic animation. Sometimes there's words depending on what we're trying to say.&nbsp;</p><p>And we try to project it as big as possible in a lot of different places, sometimes in places with a lot of foot traffic and then sometimes just for ourselves.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING "KENNY" - An anonymous artists collective in Los Angeles has recently been plastering buildings across the city with powerful graphics that send a strong political message. Except that the images leave no trace, for they are graphic projections of imagery and video.&nbsp;</p><p><a href="https://www.vjaybombs.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">VjayBombs</a>, as the collective is named, mocks billionaires, politicians, police and especially ICE agents.&nbsp;One of its members going by the name "Kenny," spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the art and what's behind it. </p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Joining me now is Kenny, one of VjayBombs’ members. To protect his identity, we're obscuring his video feed for our TV audience. Welcome to the program, Kenny.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kenny:</strong>&nbsp;Hi. How you doing?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Doing well. Thank you so much for joining us. It is really interesting to see some of these visuals on buildings. I confess I haven't seen them in person, but I've been seeing them online on your Instagram feed and if folks have been showing up to protests in LA, especially in the evenings, they might have seen some of your art. Describe for people who are unfamiliar, people who are outside LA what your art looks like.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kenny:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, so we go out with a large venue projector and we do a little pop-up art show. Most of our work is kind of in the style of like a stencil. It's very basic animation. Sometimes there's words depending on what we're trying to say.&nbsp;</p><p>And we try to project it as big as possible in a lot of different places, sometimes in places with a lot of foot traffic and then sometimes just for ourselves.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING IBRAM X KENDI - <em>The authoritarianism on full display in Donald Trump’s second term as president has a very long and sordid history, not just in the United States but all over the world. In a timely and powerful new book, acclaimed historian Ibram X Kendi traces the history of what has been called <strong>The Great Replacement theory</strong>, to help us understand the domestic turmoil we find ourselves in.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Ibram X Kendi, is one of the world’s foremost historians of racism and a leading antiracist scholar. He is Professor of History at Howard University, and the founding director of the Howard Institute for Advanced Study. He is the author of the National Book Award-winning <strong>Stamped from the Beginning</strong>,as well as the international bestseller <strong>How to Be an Antiracist</strong>, among other titles. He discussed his new book, </em><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/778233/chain-of-ideas-by-ibram-x-kendi/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Chain of Ideas: The Origins of our Authoritarian Age</em></a><em> with Sonali Kolhatkar.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, we have heard of this idea, the “great replacement theory.” I've heard it when I've studied Tucker Carlson's coverage on Fox News, for example. And I mentioned the Trump administration's second term, but really we should even mention the first term when we saw white supremacists marching on streets of American cities. What is the “great replacement theory” for those people who've never heard of it and want to understand what this means in order to meet this moment we are today? How do you define it?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Ibram X Kendi:</strong>&nbsp;Sure. First let me say I'm excited to be on your show. And so “great replacement theory” is this notion that there is this conspiracy, particularly that liberal or even progressive elites are apparently facilitating people of color to come and take away the lives, livelihoods, even jobs, or even electoral power of white people.&nbsp;</p><p>And it's actually mutated from there in different countries. And so, when we think about it even in a more expansive sense, it's this notion that there's this conspiracy to take the lives, livelihoods, or even power of majority groups through disadvantaged or even minority groups. So, it’s essentially, this idea that minoritized groups or disadvantaged groups are coming to take over.&nbsp;</p><p>And the reason why this connects to authoritarianism is because you have these authoritarian politicians who are pushing this idea on majority groups, on privileged groups, saying to them that “your lives are under attack. Your nations are being invaded, and I'm here to protect you.”&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING STEVE PHILLIPS - <em>Before figures like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, and Zohran Mamdani appeared on the national stage, there was Rev. Jesse Jackson and his Rainbow/PUSH coalition, bringing together a broad-based multiracial progressive network of people and causes to the forefront of politics. Rev. Jackson, presidential candidate and legendary civil rights activist, passed away on February 17 at the age of 84.</em></p><p><em>Jackson’s legacy is rich with advocacy for the poor and people of color, for voting rights, education, healthcare, and workers’ rights. He will lie in state in South Carolina where he is from. Following that, his body will be transported to Chicago for a major celebration of life. Rev. Jackson spent the majority of his life in Chicago where the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition is headquartered.&nbsp;</em></p><p><a href="https://www.stevephillips.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Steve Phillips</em></a><em> is a national political leader, bestselling author, and columnist. He is the author of The New York Times bestseller </em><a href="https://www.stevephillips.com/brown-is-the-new-white?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Brown Is the New White: How the Demographic Revolution Has Created a New American Majority</em></a><em> and the national bestselling book </em><a href="https://thenewpress.org/books/how-we-win-the-civil-war/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>How We Win the Civil War: Securing a Multiracial Democracy and Ending White Supremacy for Good</em></a><em>. He is also a columnist for The Guardian and The Nation and the host of the podcast, “</em><a href="https://democracyincolor.com/podcast?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Democracy in Color with Steve Phillips</em></a><em>.” He is the founder of </em><a href="https://democracyincolor.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Democracy in Color</em></a><em>, a political media organization. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about Rev. Jackson's legacy and its relevance to today. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;You were one of the first people I thought about when I thought about Reverend Jackson, given this legacy that he leaves behind, where he was really one of the first people—of course there was so many civil rights activists and leaders who did that—but he really was so prominent in bringing this idea of non-white Americans, people of color across racial lines, joining together, uniting to make their agenda, and to force it to be heard on a national political landscape. How much do you attribute your work to the legacy of Reverend Jackson?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Steve Phillips:</strong>&nbsp;Uh, all of it. Reverend Jackson was the single most important informative force in terms of who I am and what I do. And I was 20 years old when he first ran for president in 1984. I served as a delegate. I was the statewide student coordinator for the Rainbow Coalition for the 1988 campaign.&nbsp;</p><p>And the example that he provided was just so powerful and compelling around what politics should be and where it should go. He was very much a direct bridge between the Civil Rights Movement, somebody who was literally there at the time Dr. King was assassinated at the Lorraine Motel in Memphis Tennessee, and bringing that vision, those values, and probably most important, that coalition into the electoral political process in the 1980s in a fundamental fashion that both, impacted politics, but also showed and illuminated the path forward for how to go about winning.&nbsp;</p><p>This concept that when the old minorities come together, they comprise a new majority. It is in essence, the coalition that elected Barack Obama and offers the greatest hope for the future of politics in this country.</p>
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<p>FEATURING STEVE PHILLIPS - <em>Before figures like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, and Zohran Mamdani appeared on the national stage, there was Rev. Jesse Jackson and his Rainbow/PUSH coalition, bringing together a broad-based multiracial progressive network of people and causes to the forefront of politics. Rev. Jackson, presidential candidate and legendary civil rights activist, passed away on February 17 at the age of 84.</em></p><p><em>Jackson’s legacy is rich with advocacy for the poor and people of color, for voting rights, education, healthcare, and workers’ rights. He will lie in state in South Carolina where he is from. Following that, his body will be transported to Chicago for a major celebration of life. Rev. Jackson spent the majority of his life in Chicago where the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition is headquartered.&nbsp;</em></p><p><a href="https://www.stevephillips.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Steve Phillips</em></a><em> is a national political leader, bestselling author, and columnist. He is the author of The New York Times bestseller </em><a href="https://www.stevephillips.com/brown-is-the-new-white?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Brown Is the New White: How the Demographic Revolution Has Created a New American Majority</em></a><em> and the national bestselling book </em><a href="https://thenewpress.org/books/how-we-win-the-civil-war/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>How We Win the Civil War: Securing a Multiracial Democracy and Ending White Supremacy for Good</em></a><em>. He is also a columnist for The Guardian and The Nation and the host of the podcast, “</em><a href="https://democracyincolor.com/podcast?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Democracy in Color with Steve Phillips</em></a><em>.” He is the founder of </em><a href="https://democracyincolor.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Democracy in Color</em></a><em>, a political media organization. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about Rev. Jackson's legacy and its relevance to today. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;You were one of the first people I thought about when I thought about Reverend Jackson, given this legacy that he leaves behind, where he was really one of the first people—of course there was so many civil rights activists and leaders who did that—but he really was so prominent in bringing this idea of non-white Americans, people of color across racial lines, joining together, uniting to make their agenda, and to force it to be heard on a national political landscape. How much do you attribute your work to the legacy of Reverend Jackson?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Steve Phillips:</strong>&nbsp;Uh, all of it. Reverend Jackson was the single most important informative force in terms of who I am and what I do. And I was 20 years old when he first ran for president in 1984. I served as a delegate. I was the statewide student coordinator for the Rainbow Coalition for the 1988 campaign.&nbsp;</p><p>And the example that he provided was just so powerful and compelling around what politics should be and where it should go. He was very much a direct bridge between the Civil Rights Movement, somebody who was literally there at the time Dr. King was assassinated at the Lorraine Motel in Memphis Tennessee, and bringing that vision, those values, and probably most important, that coalition into the electoral political process in the 1980s in a fundamental fashion that both, impacted politics, but also showed and illuminated the path forward for how to go about winning.&nbsp;</p><p>This concept that when the old minorities come together, they comprise a new majority. It is in essence, the coalition that elected Barack Obama and offers the greatest hope for the future of politics in this country.</p>
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<p>FEATURING ED AUGUSTIN - <em>Republican Senator Lindsey Graham has declared that the US’s launch of a war against Iran will soon be followed by a </em><a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5763214-graham-lauds-us-iran-strikes/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>direct assault on Cuba</em></a><em>. The Caribbean island, which had faced the longest economic sanctions by the US against any single country in history, has been crippled after the Trump administration kidnapped Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro and cut off Venezuelan oil sales. Trump has essentially deputized US Secretary of State </em><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/01/19/marco-rubio-profile?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Marco Rubio</em></a><em>, the son of Cuban immigrants, to oversee regime change in Cuba.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Ed Augustin<strong> </strong>is an independent journalist based in Havana, Cuba. His work has regularly been featured in the </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/02/world/americas/iran-attacks-cuba-trump.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>New York Times</em></a><em>, Financial Times, NBC News, The Guardian, Al Jazeera, and beyond. His recent work includes a </em><a href="https://us.cisionone.cision.com/c/eJxsiz2P2zAMQH-NtCmQRFEfg4YDggDdurbLgZaoWrB9cW0nwfXXF0lv7BsI4vGxZhuL015yNiFYY9A7lGMekJqLJXlgdqZhbNFjwiFB4GHQRfbsE2n0xETJ2XdjSkvRGRcQhNN7rzz132qhPvO2q4DYYkuxRDUPfl1Pz4Oc83gc6y7gTdiLsJfH43H6vN6O28Cncl2eho4yCrjcBZztx8-7-nP7_vnth7D-486rgLOwflyo_Nt4KV3AGRsZLo5V8saoZoxR5BMprXUFwoAJ2quuz5pJv1D_GV8YYX3hXgWc5cK1k9p4ZtpZ9Zpf4v1LCHizgMl6ueV9us4jHRNtwulpbdPpuv2S-7ExL89H0K4Y4KRSLKQcDqxiSEnZChZbhRIpyHu2fwMAAP__PyN5jA?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>documentary short</u></em></a><em> on how US sanctions impact Cuba’s health care system. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar from Havana about how Cubans are coping with decades of sanctions and whether there could be a US war on Cuba. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;As I mentioned, the Venezuelan regime change that the US has essentially engineered, had this very direct ripple effect on Cuba, but even before that, Cuba was suffering. Is it fair to say that Cuba is at the point that it is today as a direct result of the US essentially squeezing its government for decades and refusing to allow the island to flourish?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Ed Augustin:</strong>&nbsp;Well, there's a massive ideological effort, well-financed by the way, by US taxpayers to try and make us say ‘No’ to that, to make the answer to that question ‘No.’ But the answer to the question from any objective, balanced, serious analytical point of view has to be ‘Yes.’&nbsp;</p><p>Cuba has been pushed to this point by US sanctions. So, Cuba has been sanctioned longer than any other country in modern history. It's been under a US sanctions regime for 67 years, two thirds of a century. And the sanctions on Cuba are among the most powerful sanctions in the world. The only country that could really compete with that in terms of a target that suffers sanctions is the other country that's in the international headlines today: Iran.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ED AUGUSTIN - <em>Republican Senator Lindsey Graham has declared that the US’s launch of a war against Iran will soon be followed by a </em><a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5763214-graham-lauds-us-iran-strikes/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>direct assault on Cuba</em></a><em>. The Caribbean island, which had faced the longest economic sanctions by the US against any single country in history, has been crippled after the Trump administration kidnapped Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro and cut off Venezuelan oil sales. Trump has essentially deputized US Secretary of State </em><a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2026/01/19/marco-rubio-profile?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Marco Rubio</em></a><em>, the son of Cuban immigrants, to oversee regime change in Cuba.&nbsp;&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Ed Augustin<strong> </strong>is an independent journalist based in Havana, Cuba. His work has regularly been featured in the </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/02/world/americas/iran-attacks-cuba-trump.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>New York Times</em></a><em>, Financial Times, NBC News, The Guardian, Al Jazeera, and beyond. His recent work includes a </em><a href="https://us.cisionone.cision.com/c/eJxsiz2P2zAMQH-NtCmQRFEfg4YDggDdurbLgZaoWrB9cW0nwfXXF0lv7BsI4vGxZhuL015yNiFYY9A7lGMekJqLJXlgdqZhbNFjwiFB4GHQRfbsE2n0xETJ2XdjSkvRGRcQhNN7rzz132qhPvO2q4DYYkuxRDUPfl1Pz4Oc83gc6y7gTdiLsJfH43H6vN6O28Cncl2eho4yCrjcBZztx8-7-nP7_vnth7D-486rgLOwflyo_Nt4KV3AGRsZLo5V8saoZoxR5BMprXUFwoAJ2quuz5pJv1D_GV8YYX3hXgWc5cK1k9p4ZtpZ9Zpf4v1LCHizgMl6ueV9us4jHRNtwulpbdPpuv2S-7ExL89H0K4Y4KRSLKQcDqxiSEnZChZbhRIpyHu2fwMAAP__PyN5jA?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>documentary short</u></em></a><em> on how US sanctions impact Cuba’s health care system. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar from Havana about how Cubans are coping with decades of sanctions and whether there could be a US war on Cuba. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;As I mentioned, the Venezuelan regime change that the US has essentially engineered, had this very direct ripple effect on Cuba, but even before that, Cuba was suffering. Is it fair to say that Cuba is at the point that it is today as a direct result of the US essentially squeezing its government for decades and refusing to allow the island to flourish?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Ed Augustin:</strong>&nbsp;Well, there's a massive ideological effort, well-financed by the way, by US taxpayers to try and make us say ‘No’ to that, to make the answer to that question ‘No.’ But the answer to the question from any objective, balanced, serious analytical point of view has to be ‘Yes.’&nbsp;</p><p>Cuba has been pushed to this point by US sanctions. So, Cuba has been sanctioned longer than any other country in modern history. It's been under a US sanctions regime for 67 years, two thirds of a century. And the sanctions on Cuba are among the most powerful sanctions in the world. The only country that could really compete with that in terms of a target that suffers sanctions is the other country that's in the international headlines today: Iran.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING KAVEH EHSANI - <em>The Iranian Red Crescent Society is </em><a href="https://x.com/Iranian_RCS/status/2028759981781057681?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>reporting</u></em></a><em> that nearly 800 Iranians have been killed in US and Israeli air strikes since the Trump Administration launched an </em><a href="https://www.commoncause.org/fr/presse/watchdog-group-demands-congress-stop-illegal-iran-war-pass-war-powers-resolution/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>illegal</u></em></a><em> war on Iran on February 28 without Congressional approval.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Among the first targets of US and Israeli bombs was an </em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/01/iran-school-bombing-death-toll-us-israel-strikes?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>elementary girls school</u></em></a><em> in the southern Iranian city of Minab where 175 people, </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/01/world/middleeast/girls-school-strike-iran-video.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>most of them children</u></em></a><em>, were killed. An </em><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab-girls-school-strike-as-israel-us-deny-involvement?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Al Jazeera investigation</u></em></a><em> has concluded that the strike on the school was most likely deliberate. The US and Israel’s airstrikes also resulted in the </em><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/01/middleeast/iran-new-supreme-leader-khamenei-dead-intl-latam?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>mass extrajudicial assassinations</u></em></a><em> of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and most of the nation’s top military commanders.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Iran has retaliated by aiming drone airstrikes at US military bases located in </em><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/is-iran-expanding-attacks-to-target-energy-and-civilian-sites-in-the-gulf?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>neighboring Gulf Arab nations</u></em></a><em> including the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Iraq.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Donald Trump, who had proclaimed himself the so-called peace president, has, in typical fashion, </em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/02/trump-war-iran?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>contradicted himself</u></em></a><em> and said that the Iran war would last weeks or a lot longer.&nbsp;</em></p>

<p><em>Kaveh Ehsani is associate professor of International Studies at DePaul University in Chicago. He is a contributing editor of MERIP (Middle East Report) and sits on its board of directors. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what the US-Israel war on Iran means.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;First of all, we had expected that the US would attack Iran. There were a lot of threats being made, and the airstrikes launched February 28th. You and I are speaking on Tuesday, March 3rd. A lot has happened in just a handful of days, including a spectacularly large number of civilian casualties and the wiping out of Iran's leadership—how have you been feeling through all of this, as somebody who studies what's happening there, I imagine you have family there—give me your initial thoughts on this war that threatens to destabilize the entire area?</p><p><strong>Kaveh Ehsani:</strong>&nbsp;Um… despondence. I mean, knowing and being aware of the history of similar conflicts in the region. For example, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan Syria. The future looks really bleak. This will have devastating consequences in the long run, not just for Iran, but internationally. There's nothing to feel good about in this process. But the worst thing is that this war will probably put an end, it will probably fail to achieve one of its stated goals. I mean there are at least half a dozen supposed stated goals that have been uttered by the Trump administration. But one of them is regime change. I don't think it will lead to that.&nbsp;</p><p>The Iranian political leadership is pretty well established. It has supporters. It has a military infrastructure. It controls the economy, for better or for worse. So this will not lead to that, to any kind of regime change. But it will lead to greater repression at home more pauperization of the Iranian population.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING KAVEH EHSANI - <em>The Iranian Red Crescent Society is </em><a href="https://x.com/Iranian_RCS/status/2028759981781057681?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>reporting</u></em></a><em> that nearly 800 Iranians have been killed in US and Israeli air strikes since the Trump Administration launched an </em><a href="https://www.commoncause.org/fr/presse/watchdog-group-demands-congress-stop-illegal-iran-war-pass-war-powers-resolution/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>illegal</u></em></a><em> war on Iran on February 28 without Congressional approval.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Among the first targets of US and Israeli bombs was an </em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/01/iran-school-bombing-death-toll-us-israel-strikes?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>elementary girls school</u></em></a><em> in the southern Iranian city of Minab where 175 people, </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/01/world/middleeast/girls-school-strike-iran-video.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>most of them children</u></em></a><em>, were killed. An </em><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab-girls-school-strike-as-israel-us-deny-involvement?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Al Jazeera investigation</u></em></a><em> has concluded that the strike on the school was most likely deliberate. The US and Israel’s airstrikes also resulted in the </em><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/01/middleeast/iran-new-supreme-leader-khamenei-dead-intl-latam?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>mass extrajudicial assassinations</u></em></a><em> of Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei and most of the nation’s top military commanders.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Iran has retaliated by aiming drone airstrikes at US military bases located in </em><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/is-iran-expanding-attacks-to-target-energy-and-civilian-sites-in-the-gulf?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>neighboring Gulf Arab nations</u></em></a><em> including the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Iraq.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Donald Trump, who had proclaimed himself the so-called peace president, has, in typical fashion, </em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/02/trump-war-iran?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>contradicted himself</u></em></a><em> and said that the Iran war would last weeks or a lot longer.&nbsp;</em></p>

<p><em>Kaveh Ehsani is associate professor of International Studies at DePaul University in Chicago. He is a contributing editor of MERIP (Middle East Report) and sits on its board of directors. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what the US-Israel war on Iran means.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;First of all, we had expected that the US would attack Iran. There were a lot of threats being made, and the airstrikes launched February 28th. You and I are speaking on Tuesday, March 3rd. A lot has happened in just a handful of days, including a spectacularly large number of civilian casualties and the wiping out of Iran's leadership—how have you been feeling through all of this, as somebody who studies what's happening there, I imagine you have family there—give me your initial thoughts on this war that threatens to destabilize the entire area?</p><p><strong>Kaveh Ehsani:</strong>&nbsp;Um… despondence. I mean, knowing and being aware of the history of similar conflicts in the region. For example, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan Syria. The future looks really bleak. This will have devastating consequences in the long run, not just for Iran, but internationally. There's nothing to feel good about in this process. But the worst thing is that this war will probably put an end, it will probably fail to achieve one of its stated goals. I mean there are at least half a dozen supposed stated goals that have been uttered by the Trump administration. But one of them is regime change. I don't think it will lead to that.&nbsp;</p><p>The Iranian political leadership is pretty well established. It has supporters. It has a military infrastructure. It controls the economy, for better or for worse. So this will not lead to that, to any kind of regime change. But it will lead to greater repression at home more pauperization of the Iranian population.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING STACY SUH - <em>A woman was caught on video in early February </em><a href="https://www.kshb.com/news/crime/woman-sought-after-setting-fire-to-kansas-city-mo-warehouse-once-considered-for-use-as-ice-detention-center?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>setting fire to a warehouse</u></em></a><em> in Kansas City, Missouri, rumored to be considered for use as an ICE detention facility. The sale of the facility fell through. While that particular incident was an unorthodox means of opposing ICE’s rapid expansion of detention centers, communities around the country have been using more traditional means to counter detention centers–and they’ve been winning.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>The residents of Hutchins, a small town near Dallas, Texas, </em><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/ice-detention-center-hutchins-dallas-texas-warehouse/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>successfully stopped </u></em></a><em>the sale and lease of a million square foot warehouse to ICE. A similar story played out in </em><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/atlanta/news/georgia-democrats-move-to-block-ice-detention-facilities-in-south-fulton-across-state/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>South Fulton, Georgia</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Stacy Suh is the program director at </em><a href="https://www.detentionwatchnetwork.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Detention Watch Network</em></a><em>, a national coalition building power through collective advocacy, grassroots organizing and strategic communications to abolish immigration detention in the United States. They are also a co-founder of Survived and Punished, a national organization working to end the criminalization of domestic and sexual violence survivors. Stacy spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the success stories of communities stopping ICE detention expansions.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Before we get to the way in which communities have been fighting back, remind us of just how many facilities ICE already runs around the country. People might have heard of the now infamous facility in Dilley, Texas where young children are being held, or the one in Florida that was nicknamed “Alligator Alcatraz.” But there are centers all around the country, many of which, of course predate the increase in funding that ICE got before this rapid expansion enabled by the increase in budget from the Big Beautiful Bill. How many detention centers had ICE been running?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Stacy Suh:</strong>&nbsp;So, currently there are over 200 detention centers across the country, and the Trump administration has been using every tool at its disposal to target, detain and deport as many people as possible in every area of public life. So, all across the country, there has been massive detention expansion, and it is no coincidence that even prior to this administration coming into power, that the US boasted the largest immigration detention system in the entire world.&nbsp;</p><p>And with the summer [2025] funding that you mentioned that boosted billions of dollars to ICE, ICE now is the largest law enforcement agency in the US. And the budget actually rivals that of many of the world's militaries.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING STACY SUH - <em>A woman was caught on video in early February </em><a href="https://www.kshb.com/news/crime/woman-sought-after-setting-fire-to-kansas-city-mo-warehouse-once-considered-for-use-as-ice-detention-center?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>setting fire to a warehouse</u></em></a><em> in Kansas City, Missouri, rumored to be considered for use as an ICE detention facility. The sale of the facility fell through. While that particular incident was an unorthodox means of opposing ICE’s rapid expansion of detention centers, communities around the country have been using more traditional means to counter detention centers–and they’ve been winning.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>The residents of Hutchins, a small town near Dallas, Texas, </em><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/ice-detention-center-hutchins-dallas-texas-warehouse/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>successfully stopped </u></em></a><em>the sale and lease of a million square foot warehouse to ICE. A similar story played out in </em><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/atlanta/news/georgia-democrats-move-to-block-ice-detention-facilities-in-south-fulton-across-state/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>South Fulton, Georgia</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Stacy Suh is the program director at </em><a href="https://www.detentionwatchnetwork.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Detention Watch Network</em></a><em>, a national coalition building power through collective advocacy, grassroots organizing and strategic communications to abolish immigration detention in the United States. They are also a co-founder of Survived and Punished, a national organization working to end the criminalization of domestic and sexual violence survivors. Stacy spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the success stories of communities stopping ICE detention expansions.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Before we get to the way in which communities have been fighting back, remind us of just how many facilities ICE already runs around the country. People might have heard of the now infamous facility in Dilley, Texas where young children are being held, or the one in Florida that was nicknamed “Alligator Alcatraz.” But there are centers all around the country, many of which, of course predate the increase in funding that ICE got before this rapid expansion enabled by the increase in budget from the Big Beautiful Bill. How many detention centers had ICE been running?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Stacy Suh:</strong>&nbsp;So, currently there are over 200 detention centers across the country, and the Trump administration has been using every tool at its disposal to target, detain and deport as many people as possible in every area of public life. So, all across the country, there has been massive detention expansion, and it is no coincidence that even prior to this administration coming into power, that the US boasted the largest immigration detention system in the entire world.&nbsp;</p><p>And with the summer [2025] funding that you mentioned that boosted billions of dollars to ICE, ICE now is the largest law enforcement agency in the US. And the budget actually rivals that of many of the world's militaries.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING NIKKI MARÍN BAENA - <em>Although rural states such as North Carolina did not garner as much national attention for the 2025-26 federal assault as Minnesota and California, it was an epicenter of ICE operations in the South. With a growing population of immigrant workers, especially from Latin America, groups like Siembra NC have taken on the mantle of resisting immigration enforcement.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Calling itself a power-building community organization that focuses on immigrant and labor rights, Siembra NC established itself as a national leader, sharing resources with other groups. </em></p><p><em>Nikki Marín Baena is a co-founder and co-director at </em><a href="https://siembranc.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Siembra NC</em></a><em>, a Latine base-building organization in North Carolina. She was previously finance director at Mijente, where she also helped coordinate the organization’s Sin El Estado work with activists in the U.S., Puerto Rico, and other parts of Latinoamérica. She is currently a core trainer at Training for Change and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how her organization led North Carolina's anti-ICE resistance.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;The ICE invasion of Minneapolis, Chicago, and Los Angeles garnered so much attention, but cities like Charlotte have also faced ICE terror even if we haven’t seen much national media. How big was ICE’s so-called Operation Charlotte’s Web at its peak?</p><p><strong>Nikki Marín Baena:</strong>&nbsp;ICE agents are in Charlotte all the time. The Charlotte ICE field office is one of the biggest in the South. Since the beginning of 2025, Siembra NC had been tracking, along with other immigrant organizations in North Carolina, an increase in detentions in Mecklenburg County where Charlotte is located. All year we noticed detentions at ICE check-ins at court as well as at traffic stops.&nbsp;</p><p>As of November 15, 2025, in addition to the ICE presence we had Border Patrol head Greg Bovino and his agents coming into Charlotte. This was very unusual. Historically we don't think of Charlotte as a border city. But under the Trump administration, Border Patrol’s jurisdiction is everywhere. Like ICE agents, Border Patrol agents are masked even though they have different training.&nbsp;</p><p>ICE agents are usually trying to do some kind of targeted enforcement operation and are looking for specific people, although they might detain someone else on the way to finding that person. They call that a collateral arrest.&nbsp;But the Border Patrol enforcement was random. There were agents hanging out at gas stations, in parking lots, looking to see who they could detain.&nbsp;</p><!--members-only--><figure class="kg-card kg-embed-card kg-card-hascaption"><iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/1167844719?h=a045d4061d&amp;app_id=122963" width="426" height="240" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" title="How North Carolina’s Immigrant Rights Movement Fought ICE"></iframe><figcaption><p dir="ltr"><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">GUEST: </em></i><i><b><strong class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Nikki Marín Baena</strong></b></i><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> is a co-founder and co-director at </em></i><a href="https://siembranc.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Siembra NC</em></i></a><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">, a Latine base-building organization in North Carolina. </em></i></p></figcaption></figure><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How immigrant-heavy is North Carolina?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;Charlotte, North Carolina has the largest immigrant population in the state, and it's growing. But what makes it different from other cities with ICE presence such as LA, Chicago or even Minneapolis, is that the population is more spread out, and not as dense. It can take a really long time, especially during rush hour, to get from one side of Charlotte to the other.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How has Siembra NC responded to the ICE and CBP presence?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;In North Carolina, during the 2018 midterm elections which took place under the first Trump Administration, densely populated counties elected a bunch of progressive sheriffs, almost as a backlash to the 2016 presidential election. Many of them said they were going to end their ICE collaboration programs. Then in 2019, ICE did what at the time, felt like a very big operation here, where they detained over 200 people in about 10 days across the state. By then Siembra NC had setup a hotline. We had trained people to do what we call “verification,” which is documenting ICE presence and verifying that it is actually ICE and not some other law enforcement agency. The reason that we did that is because we noticed that even the rumor of ICE agents could totally shut down a neighborhood or a community. People would not go to school or work. We wanted to be able to help people make decisions about how to go about their day with the best information possible.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>We already set up a lot of that infrastructure in the first Trump administration. A lot of it is just helping people do their own fact checking for their neighborhood, for their community. In 2025, after the inauguration of this second administration, we just saw a level of panic and a level of rumor-spreading that we had never experienced before. We once more tried to help people know what questions to ask, what they're looking for, both inside and outside immigrant communities.</p><p>In addition to that, people reached out to us requesting things like trainings for their church because their congregants were afraid to come to services. We had already been doing such trainings but the need for them grew very quickly in a short period of time.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;It sounds like it was a matter of increasing outreach and rapidly escalating your reach in this second term. What about sharing your model of community defense with the rest of the nation?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;In early 2025, we launched our “Defend and Recruit” playbook that people can download from our website. Part of the reason we did that was because we foresaw that this thing that we figured out, other people are going to have to figure it out. And maybe we can help them learn so many things the hard way if we share some of our best practices and some of our learnings.&nbsp;</p><p>But our longer-term goal for North Carolina is to create a bigger base of support so that we can build more political power and stop and this from happening again. We studied other groups that have done similar things and learned a lot from ISAIAH in Minnesota, an interfaith community organizing group that built teams and structures to broaden their base of support.&nbsp;</p><p>By the time Border Patrol came to North Carolina, we were able to learn how to expand our capacity and how to have more tiers of volunteers doing things so that more people could get trained to meet the situation.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;When we saw the ICE surge in other parts of the country, people came up with some very unique and interesting ways to take on federal agents, including rapid response community organizing where they would put out information really quickly about where ICE was and then bring people out to challenge and confront them with bullhorns. In Chicago and Minneapolis, people are using whistles to alert others about ICE. Did you adopt some of those newer and more innovative ways of responding to ICE or did they not apply because of the unique geography and culture of North Carolina?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;We knew that in the trainings we did before Border Patrol showed up, we had to prepare people to witness a detention. We advise people that if there are just two of them, the most important thing is to document the arrest and to try to get the name of the person being detained. We've seen in other places like Chicago when people were unconstitutionally arrested, such documentation was very useful in court to be able to get that person out.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>But if there are four people witnessing an ICE arrest, two of them should document it the other two should alert folks on the perimeter to what's happening, such as yelling “Hey, there's, there's an ICE operation happening around here, just a heads up.”</p><p>And if there are more than four people, we advised people to sing.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Sing?</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;Yes. We had the whistles but what we really want to do in a situation of an ICE arrest is to help people stay calm. We’ve learned from the long history of the Civil Rights movement how important singing was. In our training, we had people practice singing This Little Light of Mine. Singing can help lower the temperature. That was one of the things that we did differently.&nbsp;</p><p>I really liked the Portland, Oregon response to ICE with the inflatable animal costumes but we didn’t get to do that.</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;One of the things that I noticed that Siembra NC does is help immigrant workers recover lost wages or stolen wages. Why is that an important part of your work and how does it fit with protecting immigrant workers?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;North Carolina has for years ranked as the worst state in the United States to be a worker. That's because of a combination of circumstances, one of which is that it’s a “right to work” state. Also, the minimum wage is very low and there are very few workplace protections. Our cities are growing quickly, in large part due to immigrant workers. In Charlotte, Raleigh, and Durham, there are construction sites everywhere and a lot of that work is being done by immigrant workers.&nbsp;</p><p>Very often those immigrant workers are the subcontractor of a subcontractor of a subcontractor—a long chain in construction. When people don't get paid, they often think there's nothing they can do about it. They might think, it’s only a problem if I haven't been paid $10,000 or $20,000. But really, for an individual who did a paint job and didn't get paid their thousand dollar fee, in some ways that’s even worse because they were likely counting on that money to pay their rent and groceries.&nbsp;</p><p>Siembra NC does intakes with such workers and help them figure out what their situation is and help them collect information and proof. We do workshops for workers to ensure they have the right documentation when getting hired in order to protect themselves. Every one of these workers deserves to live a dignified life. Workers in North Carolina are being mistreated and undervalued and we want to change that.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;It sounds as though it’s a systemic feature, that if you can keep workers living in fear of immigration enforcement, it's easier to steal their wages, it's easier to exploit their labor. Is that why Siembra NC wants to build political power, in order to change the system?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;Yes, absolutely. The only thing that will change our current conditions is building political power. And in order to do that, you need lots of organized people. But when people are afraid to leave their homes for fear of being randomly detained—and at this point, even US citizens are afraid they will be targeted based on their race—they are not likely to organize. The same is true if they’re not getting paid for one out of every four jobs they do. If they're struggling to make ends meet, they're not likely to organize.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How does North Carolina fit with the national political context? I assume you aren’t counting on base building for the Democratic Party because leaders like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris haven’t exactly been pro-immigrant.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;This was also something we learned from Minnesota, that we need to build the kind of power where we can negotiate with elected officials rather than work to elect them. I think North Carolina is important nationally in that it’s growing very quickly. It's a state that is 50% rural, so it has a lot of the qualities of what the US is.&nbsp;</p><p>North Carolina is also an interesting state politically because before the period of 2010-2014, the state had basically been run by the Democratic Party for a hundred years. In some ways, the national rightwing takeover, that is what happened in North Carolina between 2010 and 2014. So, it’s an important state to learn from about how the rightwing playbook works, how the right makes their own district maps and wins elections, and takes over institutions like public universities. And at the same time, it’s an important case study in how we organize and fight back.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How is your organization engaged in culture shifting. Although the immigrant population is growing, people of immigrant origin are still a minority in many states. How are you reaching out to justice-loving white North Carolinians to become your allies?</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;Something that is very unique to our state is that we live with each other. There's a rural county, Randolph, just south of where I live, and a lot of the Latinos I know work in textile factories there. They work alongside rural white people. And many of those white people identify as conservatives, but they are living alongside these Latino workers. They have relationships, they're friends. That’s very common here.&nbsp;</p><p>People form these ties all the time, and they see that as being separate from their political life. Part of what we end up trying to invite people into is to remind them that it is part of your political life that you have these relationships. That is really important.&nbsp;</p><p>And then with our wage theft work, we could have an office of caseworkers where workers come in and we call the boss, and then we sue the boss and keep the interactions one-on-one and private. But we choose to be very public with our wage theft actions, because we want to tell the story that when this happens to one worker, it is the entire community's problem. That's the way we've tried to talk about things like immigration enforcement too. When one person is unconstitutionally arrested, that is not just that person or their family's problem, it’s everybody in that community's problem. We don't want to live in a place where that happens.&nbsp;</p><p>I really do believe that most people in the state of North Carolina don't see themselves as part of a rightwing agenda to defund public schools. We help people see that when such things happen, they have to take action.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;What does it look like for Siembra NC to build political power in a concrete sense, not just among Latinos but other non-Latino immigrants and Black residents?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;Yes, in recent years non-Latino people started approaching us saying they also want to build power like we are doing. We started a project called Make NC Work so that we could have a multiracial organizing space alongside our Latino organizing. Siembra NC members have worked with Make NC Work members around Fourth Amendment workplaces, which is the idea that if there is an employer who is an ally rather than a perpetrator, what can that employer do to protect their workers if ICE shows up. So, instead of doing Know Your Rights workshops only for Immigrant Communities, we started doing these Fourth Amendment workplace trainings for employers and for business owners about what to do if their rights were being violated. Your Fourth Amendment rights get violated if a federal agent comes into your private space without a warrant.&nbsp;</p><p>So, we trained them on how to ask for a judicial warrant rather than an administrative warrant. We canvassed more a thousand businesses across the state and many of them have become Fourth Amendment workplaces. And some cities in North Carolina even started passing Fourth Amendment workplace resolutions.</p><p>This is a good first step in the direction of saying that a lot of North Carolinians are being impacted by government overreach. One kind of government overreach is unconstitutional ICE arrests and another kind is how cities and counties are being impacted by significant cuts embedded in the so-called Big Beautiful Bill.&nbsp;</p><p>We're about to launch an exciting project called the Enough Should Be Enough Listening Tour which involves Latino and non-Latino community members going to their workplaces, churches, schools, neighborhoods, to find out what people in North Carolina actually want for their state.</p> ]]>
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<p>FEATURING NIKKI MARÍN BAENA - <em>Although rural states such as North Carolina did not garner as much national attention for the 2025-26 federal assault as Minnesota and California, it was an epicenter of ICE operations in the South. With a growing population of immigrant workers, especially from Latin America, groups like Siembra NC have taken on the mantle of resisting immigration enforcement.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Calling itself a power-building community organization that focuses on immigrant and labor rights, Siembra NC established itself as a national leader, sharing resources with other groups. </em></p><p><em>Nikki Marín Baena is a co-founder and co-director at </em><a href="https://siembranc.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Siembra NC</em></a><em>, a Latine base-building organization in North Carolina. She was previously finance director at Mijente, where she also helped coordinate the organization’s Sin El Estado work with activists in the U.S., Puerto Rico, and other parts of Latinoamérica. She is currently a core trainer at Training for Change and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how her organization led North Carolina's anti-ICE resistance.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;The ICE invasion of Minneapolis, Chicago, and Los Angeles garnered so much attention, but cities like Charlotte have also faced ICE terror even if we haven’t seen much national media. How big was ICE’s so-called Operation Charlotte’s Web at its peak?</p><p><strong>Nikki Marín Baena:</strong>&nbsp;ICE agents are in Charlotte all the time. The Charlotte ICE field office is one of the biggest in the South. Since the beginning of 2025, Siembra NC had been tracking, along with other immigrant organizations in North Carolina, an increase in detentions in Mecklenburg County where Charlotte is located. All year we noticed detentions at ICE check-ins at court as well as at traffic stops.&nbsp;</p><p>As of November 15, 2025, in addition to the ICE presence we had Border Patrol head Greg Bovino and his agents coming into Charlotte. This was very unusual. Historically we don't think of Charlotte as a border city. But under the Trump administration, Border Patrol’s jurisdiction is everywhere. Like ICE agents, Border Patrol agents are masked even though they have different training.&nbsp;</p><p>ICE agents are usually trying to do some kind of targeted enforcement operation and are looking for specific people, although they might detain someone else on the way to finding that person. They call that a collateral arrest.&nbsp;But the Border Patrol enforcement was random. There were agents hanging out at gas stations, in parking lots, looking to see who they could detain.&nbsp;</p><!--members-only--><figure class="kg-card kg-embed-card kg-card-hascaption"><iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/1167844719?h=a045d4061d&amp;app_id=122963" width="426" height="240" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" title="How North Carolina’s Immigrant Rights Movement Fought ICE"></iframe><figcaption><p dir="ltr"><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">GUEST: </em></i><i><b><strong class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Nikki Marín Baena</strong></b></i><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> is a co-founder and co-director at </em></i><a href="https://siembranc.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Siembra NC</em></i></a><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">, a Latine base-building organization in North Carolina. </em></i></p></figcaption></figure><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How immigrant-heavy is North Carolina?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;Charlotte, North Carolina has the largest immigrant population in the state, and it's growing. But what makes it different from other cities with ICE presence such as LA, Chicago or even Minneapolis, is that the population is more spread out, and not as dense. It can take a really long time, especially during rush hour, to get from one side of Charlotte to the other.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How has Siembra NC responded to the ICE and CBP presence?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;In North Carolina, during the 2018 midterm elections which took place under the first Trump Administration, densely populated counties elected a bunch of progressive sheriffs, almost as a backlash to the 2016 presidential election. Many of them said they were going to end their ICE collaboration programs. Then in 2019, ICE did what at the time, felt like a very big operation here, where they detained over 200 people in about 10 days across the state. By then Siembra NC had setup a hotline. We had trained people to do what we call “verification,” which is documenting ICE presence and verifying that it is actually ICE and not some other law enforcement agency. The reason that we did that is because we noticed that even the rumor of ICE agents could totally shut down a neighborhood or a community. People would not go to school or work. We wanted to be able to help people make decisions about how to go about their day with the best information possible.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>We already set up a lot of that infrastructure in the first Trump administration. A lot of it is just helping people do their own fact checking for their neighborhood, for their community. In 2025, after the inauguration of this second administration, we just saw a level of panic and a level of rumor-spreading that we had never experienced before. We once more tried to help people know what questions to ask, what they're looking for, both inside and outside immigrant communities.</p><p>In addition to that, people reached out to us requesting things like trainings for their church because their congregants were afraid to come to services. We had already been doing such trainings but the need for them grew very quickly in a short period of time.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;It sounds like it was a matter of increasing outreach and rapidly escalating your reach in this second term. What about sharing your model of community defense with the rest of the nation?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;In early 2025, we launched our “Defend and Recruit” playbook that people can download from our website. Part of the reason we did that was because we foresaw that this thing that we figured out, other people are going to have to figure it out. And maybe we can help them learn so many things the hard way if we share some of our best practices and some of our learnings.&nbsp;</p><p>But our longer-term goal for North Carolina is to create a bigger base of support so that we can build more political power and stop and this from happening again. We studied other groups that have done similar things and learned a lot from ISAIAH in Minnesota, an interfaith community organizing group that built teams and structures to broaden their base of support.&nbsp;</p><p>By the time Border Patrol came to North Carolina, we were able to learn how to expand our capacity and how to have more tiers of volunteers doing things so that more people could get trained to meet the situation.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;When we saw the ICE surge in other parts of the country, people came up with some very unique and interesting ways to take on federal agents, including rapid response community organizing where they would put out information really quickly about where ICE was and then bring people out to challenge and confront them with bullhorns. In Chicago and Minneapolis, people are using whistles to alert others about ICE. Did you adopt some of those newer and more innovative ways of responding to ICE or did they not apply because of the unique geography and culture of North Carolina?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;We knew that in the trainings we did before Border Patrol showed up, we had to prepare people to witness a detention. We advise people that if there are just two of them, the most important thing is to document the arrest and to try to get the name of the person being detained. We've seen in other places like Chicago when people were unconstitutionally arrested, such documentation was very useful in court to be able to get that person out.&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>But if there are four people witnessing an ICE arrest, two of them should document it the other two should alert folks on the perimeter to what's happening, such as yelling “Hey, there's, there's an ICE operation happening around here, just a heads up.”</p><p>And if there are more than four people, we advised people to sing.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Sing?</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;Yes. We had the whistles but what we really want to do in a situation of an ICE arrest is to help people stay calm. We’ve learned from the long history of the Civil Rights movement how important singing was. In our training, we had people practice singing This Little Light of Mine. Singing can help lower the temperature. That was one of the things that we did differently.&nbsp;</p><p>I really liked the Portland, Oregon response to ICE with the inflatable animal costumes but we didn’t get to do that.</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;One of the things that I noticed that Siembra NC does is help immigrant workers recover lost wages or stolen wages. Why is that an important part of your work and how does it fit with protecting immigrant workers?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;North Carolina has for years ranked as the worst state in the United States to be a worker. That's because of a combination of circumstances, one of which is that it’s a “right to work” state. Also, the minimum wage is very low and there are very few workplace protections. Our cities are growing quickly, in large part due to immigrant workers. In Charlotte, Raleigh, and Durham, there are construction sites everywhere and a lot of that work is being done by immigrant workers.&nbsp;</p><p>Very often those immigrant workers are the subcontractor of a subcontractor of a subcontractor—a long chain in construction. When people don't get paid, they often think there's nothing they can do about it. They might think, it’s only a problem if I haven't been paid $10,000 or $20,000. But really, for an individual who did a paint job and didn't get paid their thousand dollar fee, in some ways that’s even worse because they were likely counting on that money to pay their rent and groceries.&nbsp;</p><p>Siembra NC does intakes with such workers and help them figure out what their situation is and help them collect information and proof. We do workshops for workers to ensure they have the right documentation when getting hired in order to protect themselves. Every one of these workers deserves to live a dignified life. Workers in North Carolina are being mistreated and undervalued and we want to change that.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;It sounds as though it’s a systemic feature, that if you can keep workers living in fear of immigration enforcement, it's easier to steal their wages, it's easier to exploit their labor. Is that why Siembra NC wants to build political power, in order to change the system?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;Yes, absolutely. The only thing that will change our current conditions is building political power. And in order to do that, you need lots of organized people. But when people are afraid to leave their homes for fear of being randomly detained—and at this point, even US citizens are afraid they will be targeted based on their race—they are not likely to organize. The same is true if they’re not getting paid for one out of every four jobs they do. If they're struggling to make ends meet, they're not likely to organize.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How does North Carolina fit with the national political context? I assume you aren’t counting on base building for the Democratic Party because leaders like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris haven’t exactly been pro-immigrant.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;This was also something we learned from Minnesota, that we need to build the kind of power where we can negotiate with elected officials rather than work to elect them. I think North Carolina is important nationally in that it’s growing very quickly. It's a state that is 50% rural, so it has a lot of the qualities of what the US is.&nbsp;</p><p>North Carolina is also an interesting state politically because before the period of 2010-2014, the state had basically been run by the Democratic Party for a hundred years. In some ways, the national rightwing takeover, that is what happened in North Carolina between 2010 and 2014. So, it’s an important state to learn from about how the rightwing playbook works, how the right makes their own district maps and wins elections, and takes over institutions like public universities. And at the same time, it’s an important case study in how we organize and fight back.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How is your organization engaged in culture shifting. Although the immigrant population is growing, people of immigrant origin are still a minority in many states. How are you reaching out to justice-loving white North Carolinians to become your allies?</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;Something that is very unique to our state is that we live with each other. There's a rural county, Randolph, just south of where I live, and a lot of the Latinos I know work in textile factories there. They work alongside rural white people. And many of those white people identify as conservatives, but they are living alongside these Latino workers. They have relationships, they're friends. That’s very common here.&nbsp;</p><p>People form these ties all the time, and they see that as being separate from their political life. Part of what we end up trying to invite people into is to remind them that it is part of your political life that you have these relationships. That is really important.&nbsp;</p><p>And then with our wage theft work, we could have an office of caseworkers where workers come in and we call the boss, and then we sue the boss and keep the interactions one-on-one and private. But we choose to be very public with our wage theft actions, because we want to tell the story that when this happens to one worker, it is the entire community's problem. That's the way we've tried to talk about things like immigration enforcement too. When one person is unconstitutionally arrested, that is not just that person or their family's problem, it’s everybody in that community's problem. We don't want to live in a place where that happens.&nbsp;</p><p>I really do believe that most people in the state of North Carolina don't see themselves as part of a rightwing agenda to defund public schools. We help people see that when such things happen, they have to take action.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;What does it look like for Siembra NC to build political power in a concrete sense, not just among Latinos but other non-Latino immigrants and Black residents?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Baena:</strong>&nbsp;Yes, in recent years non-Latino people started approaching us saying they also want to build power like we are doing. We started a project called Make NC Work so that we could have a multiracial organizing space alongside our Latino organizing. Siembra NC members have worked with Make NC Work members around Fourth Amendment workplaces, which is the idea that if there is an employer who is an ally rather than a perpetrator, what can that employer do to protect their workers if ICE shows up. So, instead of doing Know Your Rights workshops only for Immigrant Communities, we started doing these Fourth Amendment workplace trainings for employers and for business owners about what to do if their rights were being violated. Your Fourth Amendment rights get violated if a federal agent comes into your private space without a warrant.&nbsp;</p><p>So, we trained them on how to ask for a judicial warrant rather than an administrative warrant. We canvassed more a thousand businesses across the state and many of them have become Fourth Amendment workplaces. And some cities in North Carolina even started passing Fourth Amendment workplace resolutions.</p><p>This is a good first step in the direction of saying that a lot of North Carolinians are being impacted by government overreach. One kind of government overreach is unconstitutional ICE arrests and another kind is how cities and counties are being impacted by significant cuts embedded in the so-called Big Beautiful Bill.&nbsp;</p><p>We're about to launch an exciting project called the Enough Should Be Enough Listening Tour which involves Latino and non-Latino community members going to their workplaces, churches, schools, neighborhoods, to find out what people in North Carolina actually want for their state.</p> ]]>
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<p>FEATURING LUCKY LONGORIA - <em>More than 30,000 unionized workers at California and Hawaii facilities of Kaiser Permanente, one of the nation’s largest nonprofit healthcare providers, are </em><a href="https://apnews.com/article/kaiser-permanente-strike-california-united-nurses-1726260636f3a6bc5f6efbf830f353e2?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>returning to work</u></em></a><em> after 4 weeks on the picket line. The nurses, lab technicians, pharmacists and others, are members of UNAC/UHCP, United Nurses Associations of California/Union of Health Care Professionals, which </em><a href="https://unacuhcp.org/news/largest-open-ended-health-care-strike-in-u-s-history-ends-at-kaiser-permanente-as-negotiations-close-resolution/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>said</u></em></a><em> the strike was the largest open-ended work stoppage of healthcare professionals in US history.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Workers say their salaries have not kept pace with inflation and that Kaiser doesn’t employ enough workers, which endangers patient safety. Meanwhile, Kaiser was found to be sitting on </em><a href="https://unacuhcp.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/PROFITS-OVER-PATIENTS-Highlights_Jan-2026.pdf?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>$66 billion in unrestricted reserves</u></em></a><em> even as the company has continued increasing patient premiums and kept salaries flat. Further, the nurses union has reviewed Kaiser’s holdings and found that Kaiser Permanente Group Trust has investments in</em><a href="https://unacuhcp.org/news/striking-nurses-and-health-care-professionals-back-transparency-bill-requiring-kaiser-to-disclose-investments/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u> Geo group and CoreCivic</u></em></a><em>, the nation’s largest private prison corporations with major government contracts to detain immigrants.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Lucky Longoria is a pediatric nurse at a Kaiser facility in Downey, California. And she’s a writer, activist, community volunteer, and member of UNAC/UHCP. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about why her union was on strike and what they won.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let's talk about what it was like to be on the picket line. you and I are speaking Tuesday, February 24th, which is the day basically that I understand is the official end of the work stoppage. What has it been like to be on the picket line for four weeks, to not be at work?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Lucky Longoria:</strong>&nbsp;The hardest thing about being on the picket line is having a loss of control when it comes to the patient care that's ongoing, even though we have to step away from the bedside. I'm a pediatric nurse. We have patients who come and they stay with us maybe a month at a time because they have chronic conditions. So, they're not just patients, they become family. And to know that you have no sense or understanding as to how they are, as to what the care is like that they're receiving, the worry, the stress of, of not knowing. You know, we are nurses, it's an occupation. but because our heart is most importantly the biggest asset we have as, as professionals, as nurses, as care providers, we don't leave the job when we clock out. So, we took the worry with us and the worry was with us on the line.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING LUCKY LONGORIA - <em>More than 30,000 unionized workers at California and Hawaii facilities of Kaiser Permanente, one of the nation’s largest nonprofit healthcare providers, are </em><a href="https://apnews.com/article/kaiser-permanente-strike-california-united-nurses-1726260636f3a6bc5f6efbf830f353e2?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>returning to work</u></em></a><em> after 4 weeks on the picket line. The nurses, lab technicians, pharmacists and others, are members of UNAC/UHCP, United Nurses Associations of California/Union of Health Care Professionals, which </em><a href="https://unacuhcp.org/news/largest-open-ended-health-care-strike-in-u-s-history-ends-at-kaiser-permanente-as-negotiations-close-resolution/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>said</u></em></a><em> the strike was the largest open-ended work stoppage of healthcare professionals in US history.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Workers say their salaries have not kept pace with inflation and that Kaiser doesn’t employ enough workers, which endangers patient safety. Meanwhile, Kaiser was found to be sitting on </em><a href="https://unacuhcp.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/01/PROFITS-OVER-PATIENTS-Highlights_Jan-2026.pdf?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>$66 billion in unrestricted reserves</u></em></a><em> even as the company has continued increasing patient premiums and kept salaries flat. Further, the nurses union has reviewed Kaiser’s holdings and found that Kaiser Permanente Group Trust has investments in</em><a href="https://unacuhcp.org/news/striking-nurses-and-health-care-professionals-back-transparency-bill-requiring-kaiser-to-disclose-investments/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u> Geo group and CoreCivic</u></em></a><em>, the nation’s largest private prison corporations with major government contracts to detain immigrants.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Lucky Longoria is a pediatric nurse at a Kaiser facility in Downey, California. And she’s a writer, activist, community volunteer, and member of UNAC/UHCP. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about why her union was on strike and what they won.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let's talk about what it was like to be on the picket line. you and I are speaking Tuesday, February 24th, which is the day basically that I understand is the official end of the work stoppage. What has it been like to be on the picket line for four weeks, to not be at work?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Lucky Longoria:</strong>&nbsp;The hardest thing about being on the picket line is having a loss of control when it comes to the patient care that's ongoing, even though we have to step away from the bedside. I'm a pediatric nurse. We have patients who come and they stay with us maybe a month at a time because they have chronic conditions. So, they're not just patients, they become family. And to know that you have no sense or understanding as to how they are, as to what the care is like that they're receiving, the worry, the stress of, of not knowing. You know, we are nurses, it's an occupation. but because our heart is most importantly the biggest asset we have as, as professionals, as nurses, as care providers, we don't leave the job when we clock out. So, we took the worry with us and the worry was with us on the line.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DANIA MUÑOZ - <em>New York City’s largest nurses strike, numbering at about 15,000 at its peak, is coming to an end–at least for a majority of striking nurses. Nurses from multiple hospitals have been picketing for a month in what was the second major strike in three years. Now, those working at Montefiore, Mount Sinai Hospital, and Mount Sinai Morningside and West hospitals </em><a href="https://www.nysna.org/news/victory-montefiore-and-mount-sinai-nurses-ratify-contracts-after-one-month-strike?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>ratified an offer</u></em></a><em>, while more than 4,000 nurses at </em><a href="https://www.nysna.org/press/newyork-presbyterian-slammed-almost-400k-financial-remedies-rns-understaffing-hospital-nurses?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>New York Presbyterian hospital</u></em></a><em> voted to continue their strike, now in its sixth week.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Meanwhile, in Southern California, tens of thousands of nurses at Kaiser Permanente are also in their </em><a href="https://calmatters.org/health/2026/02/kaiser-strike-fourth-week-nurses/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>fourth week of striking</u></em></a><em>.</em></p><p><em>Dania Muñoz, a Nurse Practitioner at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City and a member of the New York State Nurses Association spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the strike and what it achieved. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let's first start with the reason why nurses went on strike. As I mentioned at it’s peak, 15,000 people were on strike at pickets around the New York city area. What was the main reason for the strike?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dania Muñoz:</strong>&nbsp;There were a couple of reasons why we went on strike, but the main one I would say was because of health insurance. Before we went on strike, before we dropped our 10-day notice, we were notified that our insurance was going to be a problem for our employers to continue to pay for. And that basically forced us to go on strike. They wanted us to, you know, to make cuts to our insurance, to the point where there was gonna potentially be premiums and co-insurance and just a lot of things that we weren't used to doing and paying for when it comes to insurances for nurses, at least in the facilities that we work in. So that was one of the major things that pushed nurses to strike, honestly.&nbsp;</p><p>Also our pension, even though the rates for the pensions were known the hospitals did not wanna sign off on those rates, and that made us question whether they were gonna continue our pension or not.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DANIA MUÑOZ - <em>New York City’s largest nurses strike, numbering at about 15,000 at its peak, is coming to an end–at least for a majority of striking nurses. Nurses from multiple hospitals have been picketing for a month in what was the second major strike in three years. Now, those working at Montefiore, Mount Sinai Hospital, and Mount Sinai Morningside and West hospitals </em><a href="https://www.nysna.org/news/victory-montefiore-and-mount-sinai-nurses-ratify-contracts-after-one-month-strike?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>ratified an offer</u></em></a><em>, while more than 4,000 nurses at </em><a href="https://www.nysna.org/press/newyork-presbyterian-slammed-almost-400k-financial-remedies-rns-understaffing-hospital-nurses?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>New York Presbyterian hospital</u></em></a><em> voted to continue their strike, now in its sixth week.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Meanwhile, in Southern California, tens of thousands of nurses at Kaiser Permanente are also in their </em><a href="https://calmatters.org/health/2026/02/kaiser-strike-fourth-week-nurses/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>fourth week of striking</u></em></a><em>.</em></p><p><em>Dania Muñoz, a Nurse Practitioner at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City and a member of the New York State Nurses Association spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the strike and what it achieved. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let's first start with the reason why nurses went on strike. As I mentioned at it’s peak, 15,000 people were on strike at pickets around the New York city area. What was the main reason for the strike?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dania Muñoz:</strong>&nbsp;There were a couple of reasons why we went on strike, but the main one I would say was because of health insurance. Before we went on strike, before we dropped our 10-day notice, we were notified that our insurance was going to be a problem for our employers to continue to pay for. And that basically forced us to go on strike. They wanted us to, you know, to make cuts to our insurance, to the point where there was gonna potentially be premiums and co-insurance and just a lot of things that we weren't used to doing and paying for when it comes to insurances for nurses, at least in the facilities that we work in. So that was one of the major things that pushed nurses to strike, honestly.&nbsp;</p><p>Also our pension, even though the rates for the pensions were known the hospitals did not wanna sign off on those rates, and that made us question whether they were gonna continue our pension or not.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ALEX VITALE - <em>In 2020, when millions of Americans marched to protest the police murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis, many, including Zohran Mamdani, called for a </em><a href="https://x.com/ZohranKMamdani/status/1270023594719019009?s=20&ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>defunding of police</u></em></a><em>. A few months before his election to become Mayor of New York City, Mamdani </em><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/31/politics/mamdani-defund-police-shooting?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>announced</u></em></a><em> he would not in fact be defunding the police if elected. And, soon after he was elected, Mamdani announced he would be </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/21/nyregion/zohran-mamdani-jessica-tisch-nypd.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>asking</u></em></a><em> NYPD Police Chief Jessica Tisch to stay on.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Mamdani’s plan for policing and public safety appears to hinge on the formation of a Department of Community Safety, to provide services for New Yorkers in crisis so they can avoid contact with the criminal justice system. To that end the New York City Council </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/nyregion/city-council-community-safety-mamdani.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>introduced</u></em></a><em> a bill in December 2025 to form such a department.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Alex Vitale is a Professor of Sociology at Brooklyn College and the Coordinator of the Policing and Social Justice Project. He has spent the last 30 years writing about policing and consults both police departments and human rights organizations internationally. He is also the author of a 2017 book called The End of Policing and was invited by Mamdani to join the mayor’s transition team to work on community safety issues.&nbsp;He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the potential promise of NYC's experiment in community safety. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Before we get to what Mayor Mamdani is planning and what community safety actually means under his leadership, let's talk about the situation of policing and crime in New York City, prior to Mamdani taking power. NYPD chief Jessica Tisch has been credited by many, including by Mamdani himself for reducing crime levels in New York City. Crime is in fact down. Did she have something to do with it? If so, what? What has the state of policing and crime been in New York City before Mamdani took office?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Alex Vitale:</strong>&nbsp;So yeah, the good news is that serious crime in particular is down. And we have pretty high confidence in that this is coming down from the elevated levels that occurred during the COVID Pandemic. I think it's important to point out though, that this is a national trend.&nbsp;</p><p>Nationally, crime went up during the pandemic, as it did in New York and nationally, crime is coming down. And so, to say that this is the result of the strategic actions of one police leader in one city seems to really be a kind of parochial understanding of the nature of what is clearly a much larger and broader range phenomenon.&nbsp;</p><p>I think the main accomplishments that Tisch can point to is that she oversaw the forcing out of some of Mayor Adams' corrupt cronies who were basically selling favors and, and engaged in all kinds of corruption. So that, I think is something that definitely happened on her watch. But the idea that that a national drop in crime is the result of the actions of one police commissioner seems a bit farfetched.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ALEX VITALE - <em>In 2020, when millions of Americans marched to protest the police murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis, many, including Zohran Mamdani, called for a </em><a href="https://x.com/ZohranKMamdani/status/1270023594719019009?s=20&ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>defunding of police</u></em></a><em>. A few months before his election to become Mayor of New York City, Mamdani </em><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/31/politics/mamdani-defund-police-shooting?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>announced</u></em></a><em> he would not in fact be defunding the police if elected. And, soon after he was elected, Mamdani announced he would be </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/21/nyregion/zohran-mamdani-jessica-tisch-nypd.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>asking</u></em></a><em> NYPD Police Chief Jessica Tisch to stay on.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Mamdani’s plan for policing and public safety appears to hinge on the formation of a Department of Community Safety, to provide services for New Yorkers in crisis so they can avoid contact with the criminal justice system. To that end the New York City Council </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/nyregion/city-council-community-safety-mamdani.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>introduced</u></em></a><em> a bill in December 2025 to form such a department.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Alex Vitale is a Professor of Sociology at Brooklyn College and the Coordinator of the Policing and Social Justice Project. He has spent the last 30 years writing about policing and consults both police departments and human rights organizations internationally. He is also the author of a 2017 book called The End of Policing and was invited by Mamdani to join the mayor’s transition team to work on community safety issues.&nbsp;He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the potential promise of NYC's experiment in community safety. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Before we get to what Mayor Mamdani is planning and what community safety actually means under his leadership, let's talk about the situation of policing and crime in New York City, prior to Mamdani taking power. NYPD chief Jessica Tisch has been credited by many, including by Mamdani himself for reducing crime levels in New York City. Crime is in fact down. Did she have something to do with it? If so, what? What has the state of policing and crime been in New York City before Mamdani took office?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Alex Vitale:</strong>&nbsp;So yeah, the good news is that serious crime in particular is down. And we have pretty high confidence in that this is coming down from the elevated levels that occurred during the COVID Pandemic. I think it's important to point out though, that this is a national trend.&nbsp;</p><p>Nationally, crime went up during the pandemic, as it did in New York and nationally, crime is coming down. And so, to say that this is the result of the strategic actions of one police leader in one city seems to really be a kind of parochial understanding of the nature of what is clearly a much larger and broader range phenomenon.&nbsp;</p><p>I think the main accomplishments that Tisch can point to is that she oversaw the forcing out of some of Mayor Adams' corrupt cronies who were basically selling favors and, and engaged in all kinds of corruption. So that, I think is something that definitely happened on her watch. But the idea that that a national drop in crime is the result of the actions of one police commissioner seems a bit farfetched.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DOLORES HUERTA - &nbsp;<em>Immigration and Customs Enforcement has become the </em><a href="https://truthout.org/articles/trump-has-made-ice-the-largest-law-enforcement-agency-in-the-country/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>single largest</u></em></a><em>, most well-funded police force in the nation, thanks to Congressionally approved funding. In spite of the fact that Democrats </em><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/29/senators-block-funding-package-amid-dhs-standoff-00754927?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>stymied</u></em></a><em> emergency funding for ICE in the latest government spending bill, the agency </em><a href="https://www.aol.com/news/masking-standpoint-dhs-shuttering-leaves-124640235.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKPwBCizftK8TF6EnwRxXcDkIJttSH85ECF_Soin2s8FQHso2Kh3V9zT-7P4o_RpwXXiD7yt-GjxxQriEoQSY0uXflgiSg3EKvcAMb99ag9p08cXH32UaeBe8lygrgYsDVlS9BQtfpyO6PKnDnEze8CsulPwtpSf4Fae2lIdbfs8&ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>continues to operate</u></em></a><em>. Meanwhile, more than two thirds of Americans polled </em><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/poll-nearly-two-thirds-of-americans-say-ice-has-gone-too-far-in-immigration-crackdown?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>disapprove</u></em></a><em> of ICE operations, saying they make people less safe.&nbsp;It’s not the first time in the nation’s history that state forces have taken aim at immigrants, particularly those from Latin America. From the </em><a href="https://www.npr.org/2015/09/10/439114563/americas-forgotten-history-of-mexican-american-repatriation?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Mexican American repatriation</u></em></a><em> in the 1930s to the so-called </em><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/11/455613993/it-came-up-in-the-debate-here-are-3-things-to-know-about-operation-wetback?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Operation Wetback</u></em></a><em> in the 1950s, immigrants have faced programs of mass, often violent, removal. </em></p><p><em>Today we turn to a legendary figure active in civil and human rights, whose activism spans half a century.&nbsp;Dolores Huerta, Founder &amp; President of the </em><a href="https://doloreshuerta.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Dolores Huerta Foundation</em></a><em>. In 1962, she co-founded the </em><a href="https://nfwm.org/farm-workers/farmworker-partners/united-farm-workers-of-america/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>United Farm Workers of America (UFW)</em></a><em> with Cesar Chavez and served as Vice President, playing a vital role in securing critical labor rights for farmworkers. In 2002, Huerta used the $100,000 Puffin/Nation Prize for Creative Citizenship to establish the Dolores Huerta Foundation (DHF), which empowers grassroots leadership and advocates for educational equity, LGBTQ+ rights, infrastructure improvements, and civic engagement in underserved communities. She was also recently featured in a short film by Ellen Gavin called </em><a href="https://doloreshuerta.org/video-the-people-united/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>The People, United</em></a><em>. </em></p><p><em>Dolores Huerta spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about her participation in the anti-ICE protests. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let me start with the question of how you are viewing the current situation, the current struggle against ICE terror. For some young activists that might feel like this is unprecedented, this is brand new, but for those who have been around for a long time, there have been so many moments in history where the government has basically attacked either Mexican Americans or immigrants or people perceived to be Spanish speaking folks. This is not new, and I'm wondering what you are thinking about as you view the current moment in terms of the historical comparisons.</p><p><strong>Dolores Huerta:</strong>&nbsp;Well, we've seen this kind of behavior but it's usually been by private security people or local police, that in instances of when you had a labor strike. Like in the United Farm Workers, we had five people who were actually killed, and one of them was killed by a Sheriff’s deputy in Kern County. And so we have seen this kind of brutality in the past, but it's been by, by the local police or local people that, that were anti the workers.&nbsp;</p><p>But to see something on the wholesale level that we're seeing now, and especially when it is being supported and promoted by our president and to have this national a goon squad, you might say, when you have all of these people that have been hired by the government and been given bonuses to go in there and to beat up and, and to kill immigrants to put them into detention centers, I think the only comparable thing would be like what happened in Nazi Germany back in the late thirties and early forties when the Nazis were in control. So, this is something we never thought that we would see in the United States of America.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DOLORES HUERTA - &nbsp;<em>Immigration and Customs Enforcement has become the </em><a href="https://truthout.org/articles/trump-has-made-ice-the-largest-law-enforcement-agency-in-the-country/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>single largest</u></em></a><em>, most well-funded police force in the nation, thanks to Congressionally approved funding. In spite of the fact that Democrats </em><a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/29/senators-block-funding-package-amid-dhs-standoff-00754927?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>stymied</u></em></a><em> emergency funding for ICE in the latest government spending bill, the agency </em><a href="https://www.aol.com/news/masking-standpoint-dhs-shuttering-leaves-124640235.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAKPwBCizftK8TF6EnwRxXcDkIJttSH85ECF_Soin2s8FQHso2Kh3V9zT-7P4o_RpwXXiD7yt-GjxxQriEoQSY0uXflgiSg3EKvcAMb99ag9p08cXH32UaeBe8lygrgYsDVlS9BQtfpyO6PKnDnEze8CsulPwtpSf4Fae2lIdbfs8&ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>continues to operate</u></em></a><em>. Meanwhile, more than two thirds of Americans polled </em><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/poll-nearly-two-thirds-of-americans-say-ice-has-gone-too-far-in-immigration-crackdown?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>disapprove</u></em></a><em> of ICE operations, saying they make people less safe.&nbsp;It’s not the first time in the nation’s history that state forces have taken aim at immigrants, particularly those from Latin America. From the </em><a href="https://www.npr.org/2015/09/10/439114563/americas-forgotten-history-of-mexican-american-repatriation?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Mexican American repatriation</u></em></a><em> in the 1930s to the so-called </em><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/11/11/455613993/it-came-up-in-the-debate-here-are-3-things-to-know-about-operation-wetback?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Operation Wetback</u></em></a><em> in the 1950s, immigrants have faced programs of mass, often violent, removal. </em></p><p><em>Today we turn to a legendary figure active in civil and human rights, whose activism spans half a century.&nbsp;Dolores Huerta, Founder &amp; President of the </em><a href="https://doloreshuerta.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Dolores Huerta Foundation</em></a><em>. In 1962, she co-founded the </em><a href="https://nfwm.org/farm-workers/farmworker-partners/united-farm-workers-of-america/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>United Farm Workers of America (UFW)</em></a><em> with Cesar Chavez and served as Vice President, playing a vital role in securing critical labor rights for farmworkers. In 2002, Huerta used the $100,000 Puffin/Nation Prize for Creative Citizenship to establish the Dolores Huerta Foundation (DHF), which empowers grassroots leadership and advocates for educational equity, LGBTQ+ rights, infrastructure improvements, and civic engagement in underserved communities. She was also recently featured in a short film by Ellen Gavin called </em><a href="https://doloreshuerta.org/video-the-people-united/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>The People, United</em></a><em>. </em></p><p><em>Dolores Huerta spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about her participation in the anti-ICE protests. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let me start with the question of how you are viewing the current situation, the current struggle against ICE terror. For some young activists that might feel like this is unprecedented, this is brand new, but for those who have been around for a long time, there have been so many moments in history where the government has basically attacked either Mexican Americans or immigrants or people perceived to be Spanish speaking folks. This is not new, and I'm wondering what you are thinking about as you view the current moment in terms of the historical comparisons.</p><p><strong>Dolores Huerta:</strong>&nbsp;Well, we've seen this kind of behavior but it's usually been by private security people or local police, that in instances of when you had a labor strike. Like in the United Farm Workers, we had five people who were actually killed, and one of them was killed by a Sheriff’s deputy in Kern County. And so we have seen this kind of brutality in the past, but it's been by, by the local police or local people that, that were anti the workers.&nbsp;</p><p>But to see something on the wholesale level that we're seeing now, and especially when it is being supported and promoted by our president and to have this national a goon squad, you might say, when you have all of these people that have been hired by the government and been given bonuses to go in there and to beat up and, and to kill immigrants to put them into detention centers, I think the only comparable thing would be like what happened in Nazi Germany back in the late thirties and early forties when the Nazis were in control. So, this is something we never thought that we would see in the United States of America.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING RUBEN TORRES -<em> The Trump administration has imposed federal immigration enforcement agents on states around the nation, including ones where the immigrant population is relatively minuscule. This includes </em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/09/maine-ice-raids?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Maine</u></em></a><em>, the whitest state in the nation, where a mere 4% of the population is of immigrant origin. ICE agents have wreaked havoc on the state, and even after Republican Senator Susan Collins of Maine requested an end to the operations, tensions remain high and ICE sightings continue.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>But immigrant rights advocates have adopted the defensive measures that activists around the country have popularized. Ruben Torres is the Advocacy and Policy Manager for the </em><a href="https://maineimmigrantrights.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Maine Immigrants' Rights Coalition</u></em></a><em>. The coalition serves over 100 member organizations across the state of Maine seeking to improve legal, social, and economic conditions for immigrants in the state of Maine through advocacy, information sharing, and collaboration. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how activists are organizing anti-ICE resistance in Maine. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;The language that ICE has been using in states around the country has been as dehumanizing as its actions, and in Maine, they have called their operation “Catch of the Day.” If there was ever dehumanizing language, literally reducing immigrants to fish being caught, we would be hard pressed to find anything worse than that. How has so-called Operation Catch of the Day actually played out? What does it look like on the ground?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Ruben Torres:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, thank you. So, Operation Catch of the Day as it was dubbed by the federal government started on January 20<sup>th</sup>&nbsp;in the state of Maine where the Maine Immigrants’ Rights Coalition and our partners manage an immigrant defense hotline that has been colloquially known as the ICE Watch hotline.&nbsp;</p><p>But through that hotline, we're able to receive calls and monitor situations on the ground from community members to better provide them resources and understand what issues they're facing.&nbsp;Through that hotline, we were able to really get a good understanding of the community needs, through conversations with community members themselves directly.&nbsp;We also hosted a lot of community conversations with immigrant community leaders from across the state to understand how this was playing out in their communities.&nbsp;</p><p>Overall, while the rhetoric claims to have been targeting the worst of the worst and going after criminals, the reality is that we saw something completely different. We saw families being torn apart, grocery stores and places that were considered safe and routine in everyday life have all of a sudden lost that security blanket, and people are fearful and scared of what the world has changed into.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING VICTOR PICKARD - <em>In one of the largest mass firings of any media outlet in history, the Washington Post recently </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/business/media/washington-post-layoffs.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>laid off hundreds of employees</u></em></a><em>, or nearly one third of its entire workforce. Owned by one of the world’s richest men, Jeff Bezos, the paper has lost huge numbers of subscribers, in large part because of the 2024 decision by Bezos to end presidential endorsements.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>The paper’s publisher, </em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/washington-post-will-lewis-resigns?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Will Lewis</u></em></a><em> justified the firings saying, “difficult decisions have been taken in order to ensure the sustainable future of The Post so it can for many years ahead publish high-quality nonpartisan news.” Lewis also announced his own resignation, in which he thanked Bezos, saying “The institution could not have a better owner.”</em></p><p><em>What does the Washington Post’s decimation mean for an already-fractured news industry?&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Victor Pickard is a professor of media policy and political economy at the University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg School for Communication, where he co-directs the Media, Inequality &amp; Change Center. He has authored several books, including Democracy without Journalism? and America’s Battle for Media Democracy. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about why The Washington Post is being destroyed and what, if anything, can come out of it?</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;First, let's talk about why the Washington Post had been failing, because that's the big question at the heart of the decisions its new owner claims he's taking. He's saying that he's simply using data to justify how to fix the outlet, but the fact is that it had been losing a lot of subscribers. Now, I pointed out that 2024 that decision to not endorse presidential candidates may have had a lot to do with, and indeed it was documented that hundreds of thousands of people did end their subscriptions. Is it a lack of subscriptions that you think has led to this?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Victor Pickard:</strong>&nbsp;Well, that's certainly a contributing factor, and I think there are at least two general narratives here that we could point to, to try to make sense of what just happened to the Washington Post. One is, as you already suggested, that there's been a series of mismanagement moves, you might call them, over the last year or so where you know, not only has there been a kind of exodus of subscribers, NPR reported that after that decision to spike the endorsement for Kamala Harris, they lost 250,000 subscribers. That was a major blow to their subscription base.&nbsp;</p><p>And then there have been other moves such as the shift to the right of their editorial pages where they've been instructed to focus on personal liberties and free markets. So there's been all this meddling from above into the Washington Post's news production, which isn't supposed to happen.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING VICTOR PICKARD - <em>In one of the largest mass firings of any media outlet in history, the Washington Post recently </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/business/media/washington-post-layoffs.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>laid off hundreds of employees</u></em></a><em>, or nearly one third of its entire workforce. Owned by one of the world’s richest men, Jeff Bezos, the paper has lost huge numbers of subscribers, in large part because of the 2024 decision by Bezos to end presidential endorsements.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>The paper’s publisher, </em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/washington-post-will-lewis-resigns?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Will Lewis</u></em></a><em> justified the firings saying, “difficult decisions have been taken in order to ensure the sustainable future of The Post so it can for many years ahead publish high-quality nonpartisan news.” Lewis also announced his own resignation, in which he thanked Bezos, saying “The institution could not have a better owner.”</em></p><p><em>What does the Washington Post’s decimation mean for an already-fractured news industry?&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Victor Pickard is a professor of media policy and political economy at the University of Pennsylvania’s Annenberg School for Communication, where he co-directs the Media, Inequality &amp; Change Center. He has authored several books, including Democracy without Journalism? and America’s Battle for Media Democracy. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about why The Washington Post is being destroyed and what, if anything, can come out of it?</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;First, let's talk about why the Washington Post had been failing, because that's the big question at the heart of the decisions its new owner claims he's taking. He's saying that he's simply using data to justify how to fix the outlet, but the fact is that it had been losing a lot of subscribers. Now, I pointed out that 2024 that decision to not endorse presidential candidates may have had a lot to do with, and indeed it was documented that hundreds of thousands of people did end their subscriptions. Is it a lack of subscriptions that you think has led to this?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Victor Pickard:</strong>&nbsp;Well, that's certainly a contributing factor, and I think there are at least two general narratives here that we could point to, to try to make sense of what just happened to the Washington Post. One is, as you already suggested, that there's been a series of mismanagement moves, you might call them, over the last year or so where you know, not only has there been a kind of exodus of subscribers, NPR reported that after that decision to spike the endorsement for Kamala Harris, they lost 250,000 subscribers. That was a major blow to their subscription base.&nbsp;</p><p>And then there have been other moves such as the shift to the right of their editorial pages where they've been instructed to focus on personal liberties and free markets. So there's been all this meddling from above into the Washington Post's news production, which isn't supposed to happen.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING JEET HEER - <em>The latest trove of Epstein files released by the United States Justice department came many weeks after a deadline Congress had established through the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Some three million pages of documents published contain </em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/10/six-men-epstein-files-unredacted?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>heavy redactions</u></em></a><em>, and yet, in many cases, </em><a href="https://www.commondreams.org/news/doj-epstein?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>victims</u></em></a><em> of the sordid sex trafficking ring that Epstein led were exposed.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Meanwhile, the perpetrators and beneficiaries of Jeffrey Epstein’s web continue to operate in public with impunity.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>What do Epstein’s operations tell us about the capitalist world of billionaire elites?</em></p><p><em>Jeet Heer is a national affairs correspondent for The Nation and host of the weekly Nation podcast, </em><a href="https://www.thenation.com/content/time-of-monsters/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>The Time of Monsters</u></em></a><em>. He also pens the monthly column “</em><a href="https://www.thenation.com/content/morbid-symptoms/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Morbid Symptoms</u></em></a><em>.”&nbsp;He's written about the Epstein files </em><a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jeffrey-epstein-billionaires-jeff-bezos/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>here</em></a><em> and </em><a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jeffrey-epstein-israel-foreign-policy-elite/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>here</em></a><em>. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the how the story reveals the ugly collusion of moneyed elites. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let's first talk, before we get to the “warlord” aspect of it, let's talk about what the Epstein files say about the social networking that it seems as though the wealthy of the world are involved in behind closed doors. This sordid story unveils of course, not only the way in which women and girls have been victimized and offered up as objects for mostly men to enjoy. But it also reveals the way in which often these connections were built on trading favors, much of it after Epstein was already convicted, was already in the sights of federal investigators?</p><p><strong>Jeet Heer:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, no, that’s absolutely right. I mean obviously the most horrifying part is the sexual predation of children, which Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell participated in. And, which I mean, there's considerable evidence to believe that they were involved with sort of trafficking. And one of the interesting things is that the only Epstein and Maxwell were ever charged with this, even though it seems to go farther.&nbsp;</p><p>The way I would put it is like if you're convicting someone, as you did with Maxwell, of being a trafficker, then they must have had clients. But the department of Justice position seems to be that trafficking happened but, you had pimps without Johns.</p>
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<p>FEATURING JEET HEER - <em>The latest trove of Epstein files released by the United States Justice department came many weeks after a deadline Congress had established through the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Some three million pages of documents published contain </em><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/10/six-men-epstein-files-unredacted?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>heavy redactions</u></em></a><em>, and yet, in many cases, </em><a href="https://www.commondreams.org/news/doj-epstein?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>victims</u></em></a><em> of the sordid sex trafficking ring that Epstein led were exposed.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Meanwhile, the perpetrators and beneficiaries of Jeffrey Epstein’s web continue to operate in public with impunity.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>What do Epstein’s operations tell us about the capitalist world of billionaire elites?</em></p><p><em>Jeet Heer is a national affairs correspondent for The Nation and host of the weekly Nation podcast, </em><a href="https://www.thenation.com/content/time-of-monsters/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>The Time of Monsters</u></em></a><em>. He also pens the monthly column “</em><a href="https://www.thenation.com/content/morbid-symptoms/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Morbid Symptoms</u></em></a><em>.”&nbsp;He's written about the Epstein files </em><a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jeffrey-epstein-billionaires-jeff-bezos/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>here</em></a><em> and </em><a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jeffrey-epstein-israel-foreign-policy-elite/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>here</em></a><em>. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the how the story reveals the ugly collusion of moneyed elites. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let's first talk, before we get to the “warlord” aspect of it, let's talk about what the Epstein files say about the social networking that it seems as though the wealthy of the world are involved in behind closed doors. This sordid story unveils of course, not only the way in which women and girls have been victimized and offered up as objects for mostly men to enjoy. But it also reveals the way in which often these connections were built on trading favors, much of it after Epstein was already convicted, was already in the sights of federal investigators?</p><p><strong>Jeet Heer:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, no, that’s absolutely right. I mean obviously the most horrifying part is the sexual predation of children, which Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell participated in. And, which I mean, there's considerable evidence to believe that they were involved with sort of trafficking. And one of the interesting things is that the only Epstein and Maxwell were ever charged with this, even though it seems to go farther.&nbsp;</p><p>The way I would put it is like if you're convicting someone, as you did with Maxwell, of being a trafficker, then they must have had clients. But the department of Justice position seems to be that trafficking happened but, you had pimps without Johns.</p>
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<p>FEATURING ELLEN GAVIN - <em>As the Trump administration continues to use ICE agents to terrorize cities such as Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Chicago, and elsewhere, local organizers have come up with innovative and creative ways to defend themselves. From rapid response networks to documentation of ICE arrests, people have been showing up for their neighbors and communities. A new short movie by filmmaker Ellen Gavin, called "</em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLAmG26N0iA&ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>The People, United,</em></a><em>" depicts the importance of solidarity against ICE raids.</em></p><p><em>Ellen Gavin is a writer/director living in Los Angeles and New York.&nbsp;Her&nbsp; theater and film work is female-driven and socially conscious, born from her experiences as a passionate lesbian feminist activist. She wrote and produced five digital short films as a part of the anti-Trump resistance movement in the U.S.&nbsp;She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about her short film. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, this very short film The People, United, it's not a documentary, it is a fictional depiction of basically an ICE raid. How do you describe it to audiences?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Ellen Gavin:</strong>&nbsp;Well, it's interesting because I, you know, as a writer, I mull over things and I look at situations and try to figure out you know, what needs to be said when, and it felt, when I started this process that getting neighbors to understand that we need to be responsible for each other and that we can stand up together because we have greater numbers, than they do. So, I wanted to come up with something that as a dramatic writer in a short form, where you could really touch people's hearts. And my theory with that is that you touch people's hearts in order to move their feet, right?&nbsp;</p><p>So, getting people to understand that if we have a neighborly response, if we have a response that's based in kindness and activism that we can actually impact the direction of this country.&nbsp;</p><p>Many different things come into it. It's a fascinating process. I had a friend who was managing a bathroom renovation, and she got a call from the project manager, and while she was talking to him, she heard this glass shatter, which was her new bathroom door. And I heard that story and it was ICE that was taking the worker. And I thought, wow, you know, that's Kristallnacht.</p><p>That's what happened in Germany. and so that kind of made its way into the script. So little pieces of things like that. The Japanese internment, which is so relevant, I wanted to bring that in.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ELLEN GAVIN - <em>As the Trump administration continues to use ICE agents to terrorize cities such as Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Chicago, and elsewhere, local organizers have come up with innovative and creative ways to defend themselves. From rapid response networks to documentation of ICE arrests, people have been showing up for their neighbors and communities. A new short movie by filmmaker Ellen Gavin, called "</em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLAmG26N0iA&ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>The People, United,</em></a><em>" depicts the importance of solidarity against ICE raids.</em></p><p><em>Ellen Gavin is a writer/director living in Los Angeles and New York.&nbsp;Her&nbsp; theater and film work is female-driven and socially conscious, born from her experiences as a passionate lesbian feminist activist. She wrote and produced five digital short films as a part of the anti-Trump resistance movement in the U.S.&nbsp;She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about her short film. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, this very short film The People, United, it's not a documentary, it is a fictional depiction of basically an ICE raid. How do you describe it to audiences?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Ellen Gavin:</strong>&nbsp;Well, it's interesting because I, you know, as a writer, I mull over things and I look at situations and try to figure out you know, what needs to be said when, and it felt, when I started this process that getting neighbors to understand that we need to be responsible for each other and that we can stand up together because we have greater numbers, than they do. So, I wanted to come up with something that as a dramatic writer in a short form, where you could really touch people's hearts. And my theory with that is that you touch people's hearts in order to move their feet, right?&nbsp;</p><p>So, getting people to understand that if we have a neighborly response, if we have a response that's based in kindness and activism that we can actually impact the direction of this country.&nbsp;</p><p>Many different things come into it. It's a fascinating process. I had a friend who was managing a bathroom renovation, and she got a call from the project manager, and while she was talking to him, she heard this glass shatter, which was her new bathroom door. And I heard that story and it was ICE that was taking the worker. And I thought, wow, you know, that's Kristallnacht.</p><p>That's what happened in Germany. and so that kind of made its way into the script. So little pieces of things like that. The Japanese internment, which is so relevant, I wanted to bring that in.&nbsp;</p>
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<p><em>Hundreds of actions in all fifty states on </em><a href="https://nationalshutdown.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Friday January 30</u></em></a><em> sent a message to the Trump administration against its deployment of ICE agents into American cities. </em></p><p><em>The coordinated action was considered a national strike, encouraging students and workers to not attend school or work, to not shop or engage in any retail activity. Small business owners and non profit organizations shut down offices for the day, and marched and protested. </em></p><p><em>In Los Angeles, where ICE raids have become a near-daily occurrence, thousands of people convened outside City Hall at 1 pm, including high school students and union members. By 6 pm, the protest </em><a href="https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-01-30/national-shutdown-brings-protests-to-l-a-across-nation-calling-for-end-of-ice-violence?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>ended in eight arrests</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Sonali Kolhatkar attended the gathering in the earlier part of the day and spoke with several people including high school students, workers, and lawyers about why they were on strike in this latest edition of the series Rising Up In the Streets.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>[Chants]:</strong>&nbsp;ICE out, Trump out, ICE out, Trump out, ICE out, Trump out, ICE out. Trump out.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Wolfgang:</strong>&nbsp;My name is Wolfgang [unintelligible]. Call me Wolfy G, or whatever you like. I’m 16, proud to be 16. And I'm a proud supporter of hating ICE and hating Trump in any way.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;You're supposed to be at school today, but you're not.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Wolfgang:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. Who wouldn't, who wouldn't not skip this? This is incredible. And absolutely it is necessary that we skip school to go do this. No work, no school, no shopping. You just gotta do it. </p>
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<p><em>Hundreds of actions in all fifty states on </em><a href="https://nationalshutdown.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Friday January 30</u></em></a><em> sent a message to the Trump administration against its deployment of ICE agents into American cities. </em></p><p><em>The coordinated action was considered a national strike, encouraging students and workers to not attend school or work, to not shop or engage in any retail activity. Small business owners and non profit organizations shut down offices for the day, and marched and protested. </em></p><p><em>In Los Angeles, where ICE raids have become a near-daily occurrence, thousands of people convened outside City Hall at 1 pm, including high school students and union members. By 6 pm, the protest </em><a href="https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2026-01-30/national-shutdown-brings-protests-to-l-a-across-nation-calling-for-end-of-ice-violence?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>ended in eight arrests</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Sonali Kolhatkar attended the gathering in the earlier part of the day and spoke with several people including high school students, workers, and lawyers about why they were on strike in this latest edition of the series Rising Up In the Streets.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>[Chants]:</strong>&nbsp;ICE out, Trump out, ICE out, Trump out, ICE out, Trump out, ICE out. Trump out.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Wolfgang:</strong>&nbsp;My name is Wolfgang [unintelligible]. Call me Wolfy G, or whatever you like. I’m 16, proud to be 16. And I'm a proud supporter of hating ICE and hating Trump in any way.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;You're supposed to be at school today, but you're not.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Wolfgang:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. Who wouldn't, who wouldn't not skip this? This is incredible. And absolutely it is necessary that we skip school to go do this. No work, no school, no shopping. You just gotta do it. </p>
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<p>FEATURING LARRY COHEN - <em>An ambitious national program to address homelessness among youth is showing remarkable success. Homelessness is a national crisis, and among young people in particular, traditional solutions are often out of reach. But organizations like that of my next guest are paving the way for an ambitious rethinking of best to support young people with housing needs.</em></p><p><em>Larry Cohen is Executive Director and Co-Founder of </em><a href="https://www.pointsourceyouth.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Point Source Youth</em></a><em>, a national organization working to prevent and end youth homelessness in the U.S. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the program and how it can be scaled. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How widespread is the problem? If you listen to, for example, the Trump administration, everything's getting better but of course we know that being unhoused is far too common in the United States. And then I imagine for young people the situation is even more dire because they're more vulnerable. What are the statistics around the need for housing among youth?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Larry Cohen:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, so youth homelessness is a national crisis. So 10 percent of all young people experience unstable housing in a given year. And 3.5 million young people are unstably housed. And so, we see it's a growing problem. Also, you know, with economic inequality and other attacks on youth, and we also know that LGBTQ youth and Black, Indigenous Youth of Color are disproportionately represented in youth homelessness, and so those young people are becoming even more at risk of experiencing homelessness.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;What are some of the reasons why? I mean, there's a broad strokes reason why—you mentioned inequality. So of course, just the financial inability to pay rent or to afford to purchase a home?</p><p><strong>Cohen:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, I mean, a lot of it stems from family crisis. Forty percent of young people experiencing homelessness come from the foster care system and then LGBTQ young people are disproportionately represented as well. So what we're seeing is families that are under incredible strain both economically and in other ways, really don't have access to resources and supports and are so fragile that when there's a crisis it's leading to young people experiencing homelessness.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING LARRY COHEN - <em>An ambitious national program to address homelessness among youth is showing remarkable success. Homelessness is a national crisis, and among young people in particular, traditional solutions are often out of reach. But organizations like that of my next guest are paving the way for an ambitious rethinking of best to support young people with housing needs.</em></p><p><em>Larry Cohen is Executive Director and Co-Founder of </em><a href="https://www.pointsourceyouth.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Point Source Youth</em></a><em>, a national organization working to prevent and end youth homelessness in the U.S. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the program and how it can be scaled. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;How widespread is the problem? If you listen to, for example, the Trump administration, everything's getting better but of course we know that being unhoused is far too common in the United States. And then I imagine for young people the situation is even more dire because they're more vulnerable. What are the statistics around the need for housing among youth?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Larry Cohen:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, so youth homelessness is a national crisis. So 10 percent of all young people experience unstable housing in a given year. And 3.5 million young people are unstably housed. And so, we see it's a growing problem. Also, you know, with economic inequality and other attacks on youth, and we also know that LGBTQ youth and Black, Indigenous Youth of Color are disproportionately represented in youth homelessness, and so those young people are becoming even more at risk of experiencing homelessness.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;What are some of the reasons why? I mean, there's a broad strokes reason why—you mentioned inequality. So of course, just the financial inability to pay rent or to afford to purchase a home?</p><p><strong>Cohen:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, I mean, a lot of it stems from family crisis. Forty percent of young people experiencing homelessness come from the foster care system and then LGBTQ young people are disproportionately represented as well. So what we're seeing is families that are under incredible strain both economically and in other ways, really don't have access to resources and supports and are so fragile that when there's a crisis it's leading to young people experiencing homelessness.&nbsp;</p>
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<div class="kg-card kg-callout-card kg-callout-card-purple"><div class="kg-callout-emoji">🤩</div><div class="kg-callout-text">ENJOY THE LATEST EPISODE OF OUR NEW SERIES,<b><strong style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> RISING UP FOR JUSTICE.</strong></b> Every Tuesday, Rising Up subscribers get the <b><strong style="white-space: pre-wrap;">EXTENDED UNCUT </strong></b>version of the interview airing Mondays on Free Speech TV.</div></div><p>FEATURING MARGARET KWATENG -<em> Our nation and our world is overrun by billionaires and bigots, but they are few and we are many. On this series, exclusive to subscribers of Rising Up With Sonali and viewers of Free Speech TV, we’ll hear from organizers in the movements for social justice, and dig into the nuts and bolts of values, strategies, tactics, narratives, and building power.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>This week, Margaret Kwateng joins us. She is the Campaign Director at </em><a href="https://ggjalliance.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Grassroots Global Justice Alliance</u></em></a><em>, where she shepherded the development of GGJ’s first national campaign, The People’s Care Agenda, a campaign that seeks to both defend communities from attacks and build caring alternatives. Prior to joining GGJ, Margaret worked for years as a community and labor organizer in working class communities of color and with rank and file nurses.&nbsp;</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:&nbsp;</strong>So how do you summarize what your organization is, before we even get into what it does, because as the name suggests, it is an alliance. That means I gather that it's essentially a coalition of numerous organizations. If so, who are these organizations? What defines Grassroots Global Justice Alliance?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Margaret Kwateng:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, absolutely. So, Grassroots Global Justice Alliance is an alliance of around 65 community grassroots organizations. And so, by grassroots I mean organizations that are made up of everyday poor and working class people, predominantly people of color who are brought into groups by conversations on the bus at school, on the streets, and then sort of introduced into community efforts that are around improving the conditions.&nbsp;</p><p>And the groups that are in Grassroots Global Justice Alliance are all over the country, including in the territories, so in like Puerto Rico and Guam, and are fighting on a whole host of issues from workers' rights to reproductive justice to migrant rights.&nbsp;</p><p>But the thing that's really connecting them in Grassroots Global Justice Alliance is this understanding and desire to be a deep relationship with social movements in other parts of the world. Yeah, so that's a little bit about who is in our base. And I'm happy to talk about the work that we do.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING LIZ PERLMAN - <em>The Trump administration and Republican Party’s push to enrich already-wealthy people at the expense of the rest of us is resulting in one of the largest upward wealth transfers in the history of the nation. The so-called Big Beautiful Bill rewards the wealthiest Americans with </em><a href="https://www.americanprogress.org/press/release-7-ways-trumps-big-beautiful-bill-hands-2-trillion-to-the-rich/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>$2.3 trillion in tax cuts</u></em></a><em>. </em></p><p><em>Now, activists in states around the country are calling on governors to counter the federal tax cut with state-level taxation of the rich. Already, the state of Massachusetts has been levying taxes on millionaires for a couple of years. But California, home to a disproportionate number of billionaires, is dealing with a governor who is eying the presidency, and resolutely opposing such a tax—this in spite of strong public appetite for taxing the rich.&nbsp;Unions have backed a </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/20/us/california-billionaires-wealth-tax.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>ballot measure</em></a><em> in California to levy a one-time 5% tax on billionaires. </em></p><p><em>Liz Perlman is Executive Director of</em><a href="https://afscme3299.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em> <u>AFSCME 3299</u></em></a><em>, representing more than 40,000 service and patient care technical workers at the University of California.&nbsp; She serves on the University of California Berkeley Labor Center Advisory Board and the Bargaining For Common Good Advisory Board, and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what's at stake as the rich continue to get richer.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, let's first talk about the severity of the problem. , the Trump administration floated into its second term by claiming that it was going to be a populist presidency. Trump essentially convinced just enough people in just enough states that he cared about the common man. And of course, most of us who had been paying close attention understood it was exactly the opposite. And this transfer of wealth that he has helped to enact, that he has backed, how severely will it impact people around the country if states don't act? What are we looking at? What are the things that we're going to lose?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Liz Perlman:</strong>&nbsp;Well, I think that folks are already feeling it, right? I mean, they've been feeling it and they haven't felt relief on just a day-to-day level cost of living, gas, groceries, whatnot, the cost of housing. And I think with healthcare many people have already seen their premiums skyrocket because of the gap in the tax credits for the ACA. But what the states are facing with the so-called Big Beautiful Bill is that specifically California, and then you can apply it to many other states we're facing a $30 billion cliff in 2027 from some estimates. And, that amounts to 20% of essentially the healthcare infrastructure going away, meaning people will lose coverage and those dollars, right, when you lose people who are on healthcare and those dollars are gone from the healthcare networks and the healthcare system, which are all one system, people don't go to separate hospitals. There's your area hospital, and that's where you're gonna go. And so if 20% of the patients in that area lose their healthcare, there are going to be cuts. That is just the only way these healthcare systems are not, and hospitals, especially rural hospitals can't grow money on trees. And so if they lose those, and we're already seeing those effects everywhere.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING LIZ PERLMAN - <em>The Trump administration and Republican Party’s push to enrich already-wealthy people at the expense of the rest of us is resulting in one of the largest upward wealth transfers in the history of the nation. The so-called Big Beautiful Bill rewards the wealthiest Americans with </em><a href="https://www.americanprogress.org/press/release-7-ways-trumps-big-beautiful-bill-hands-2-trillion-to-the-rich/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>$2.3 trillion in tax cuts</u></em></a><em>. </em></p><p><em>Now, activists in states around the country are calling on governors to counter the federal tax cut with state-level taxation of the rich. Already, the state of Massachusetts has been levying taxes on millionaires for a couple of years. But California, home to a disproportionate number of billionaires, is dealing with a governor who is eying the presidency, and resolutely opposing such a tax—this in spite of strong public appetite for taxing the rich.&nbsp;Unions have backed a </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/20/us/california-billionaires-wealth-tax.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>ballot measure</em></a><em> in California to levy a one-time 5% tax on billionaires. </em></p><p><em>Liz Perlman is Executive Director of</em><a href="https://afscme3299.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em> <u>AFSCME 3299</u></em></a><em>, representing more than 40,000 service and patient care technical workers at the University of California.&nbsp; She serves on the University of California Berkeley Labor Center Advisory Board and the Bargaining For Common Good Advisory Board, and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what's at stake as the rich continue to get richer.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, let's first talk about the severity of the problem. , the Trump administration floated into its second term by claiming that it was going to be a populist presidency. Trump essentially convinced just enough people in just enough states that he cared about the common man. And of course, most of us who had been paying close attention understood it was exactly the opposite. And this transfer of wealth that he has helped to enact, that he has backed, how severely will it impact people around the country if states don't act? What are we looking at? What are the things that we're going to lose?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Liz Perlman:</strong>&nbsp;Well, I think that folks are already feeling it, right? I mean, they've been feeling it and they haven't felt relief on just a day-to-day level cost of living, gas, groceries, whatnot, the cost of housing. And I think with healthcare many people have already seen their premiums skyrocket because of the gap in the tax credits for the ACA. But what the states are facing with the so-called Big Beautiful Bill is that specifically California, and then you can apply it to many other states we're facing a $30 billion cliff in 2027 from some estimates. And, that amounts to 20% of essentially the healthcare infrastructure going away, meaning people will lose coverage and those dollars, right, when you lose people who are on healthcare and those dollars are gone from the healthcare networks and the healthcare system, which are all one system, people don't go to separate hospitals. There's your area hospital, and that's where you're gonna go. And so if 20% of the patients in that area lose their healthcare, there are going to be cuts. That is just the only way these healthcare systems are not, and hospitals, especially rural hospitals can't grow money on trees. And so if they lose those, and we're already seeing those effects everywhere.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING SHANNON GIBNEY - <em>Nearly six years ago, the people of Minneapolis took center stage in unprecedented protests against racial police terror after George Floyd was videotaped being murdered. Now, the Twin Cities area is once more ground zero for a similar kind of organized racial terror at the hands of armed agents of the state. As ICE agents have run rampant across Minneapolis and St. Paul, killing, maiming, and violating, how have locals responded and fought back?</em></p><p><a href="https://www.shannongibney.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Shannon Gibney</em></a><em> is a member of </em><a href="https://takeactionminnesota.org/public-schools/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Minneapolis Families for Public Schools</em></a><em>. She is also a professor of English at Minneapolis College, where for over fifteen years she has worked with refugees, ex-offenders, international and in-country immigrants, indigenous and communities of color, and students from all walks of life to tell their stories. Her most recent book is “</em><a href="https://www.upress.umn.edu/9781517914448/we-miss-you-george-floyd/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>We Miss You, George Floyd</em></a><em>.” </em></p><p><em>Gibney spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how Minnesotans are done playing nice. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So first, the way in which Minnesotans, people in Minneapolis and St. Paul have been responding has certainly made the news for those of us outside. But give us a sense of the, of the tone of the resistance on the ground. I understand that you wrote a story for the Minnesota Star Tribune called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-twin-cities-protests-immigration-enforcement/601564876?ref=risingupwithsonali.com">Minnesotans seem to be done playing ‘Minnesota Nice.’</a>&nbsp;What does that mean?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Shannon Gibney:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, so I moved here as a transplant more than 22 years ago, in my late twenties after graduate school, because the state has a wonderful artist’s community and infrastructure for artists. And it's been great for me and my family overall to be here. But I'm a mid-westerner. I was born and raised in Ann Arbor, Michigan. But, coming here you find this thing called “Minnesota Nice” which is basically like, “oh, we're ‘nice’ in quotes to everyone,” at least on the surface.&nbsp;</p><p>But for communities of color and folks from historically marginalized communities, we have a very different experience historically with “Minnesota Nice.” It sort of has been this way to ‘other’ people who don't sort of fit into this kind of old school white Minnesotan rural idea of what it means to be a Minnesotan.&nbsp;</p><p>But, I argue in that piece that you mentioned that appeared this weekend in the Star Tribune I argue that since George Floyd and the subsequent uprisings and then now going through the federal agent siege of ICE agents, but also Customs and Border Patrol folks, we're developing a new state ethos. And it's less around Minnesota Nice. And somebody outside the region told me it's like Minnesota Good.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING SHANNON GIBNEY - <em>Nearly six years ago, the people of Minneapolis took center stage in unprecedented protests against racial police terror after George Floyd was videotaped being murdered. Now, the Twin Cities area is once more ground zero for a similar kind of organized racial terror at the hands of armed agents of the state. As ICE agents have run rampant across Minneapolis and St. Paul, killing, maiming, and violating, how have locals responded and fought back?</em></p><p><a href="https://www.shannongibney.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Shannon Gibney</em></a><em> is a member of </em><a href="https://takeactionminnesota.org/public-schools/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Minneapolis Families for Public Schools</em></a><em>. She is also a professor of English at Minneapolis College, where for over fifteen years she has worked with refugees, ex-offenders, international and in-country immigrants, indigenous and communities of color, and students from all walks of life to tell their stories. Her most recent book is “</em><a href="https://www.upress.umn.edu/9781517914448/we-miss-you-george-floyd/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>We Miss You, George Floyd</em></a><em>.” </em></p><p><em>Gibney spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how Minnesotans are done playing nice. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So first, the way in which Minnesotans, people in Minneapolis and St. Paul have been responding has certainly made the news for those of us outside. But give us a sense of the, of the tone of the resistance on the ground. I understand that you wrote a story for the Minnesota Star Tribune called&nbsp;<a href="https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-twin-cities-protests-immigration-enforcement/601564876?ref=risingupwithsonali.com">Minnesotans seem to be done playing ‘Minnesota Nice.’</a>&nbsp;What does that mean?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Shannon Gibney:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, so I moved here as a transplant more than 22 years ago, in my late twenties after graduate school, because the state has a wonderful artist’s community and infrastructure for artists. And it's been great for me and my family overall to be here. But I'm a mid-westerner. I was born and raised in Ann Arbor, Michigan. But, coming here you find this thing called “Minnesota Nice” which is basically like, “oh, we're ‘nice’ in quotes to everyone,” at least on the surface.&nbsp;</p><p>But for communities of color and folks from historically marginalized communities, we have a very different experience historically with “Minnesota Nice.” It sort of has been this way to ‘other’ people who don't sort of fit into this kind of old school white Minnesotan rural idea of what it means to be a Minnesotan.&nbsp;</p><p>But, I argue in that piece that you mentioned that appeared this weekend in the Star Tribune I argue that since George Floyd and the subsequent uprisings and then now going through the federal agent siege of ICE agents, but also Customs and Border Patrol folks, we're developing a new state ethos. And it's less around Minnesota Nice. And somebody outside the region told me it's like Minnesota Good.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING MARIA BURNS ORTIZ - In the weeks after the January 7th ICE killing of Renee Good, a Minneapolis mother and wife, protests have continued to escalate in response to the violence of federal agents. </p><p>Reports of horrific savagery at the hands of ICE agents against immigrants and citizens, women and men and even babies, are emerging. Rightwing agitators such as <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/18/us/jake-lang-minneapolis-protest-ice?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><u>Jake Lang</u></a> have also descended on Minneapolis. </p><p>Among those who have been witnessing and documenting the chaos on the streets of the twin cities is Maria Burns Ortiz, a nonprofit executive director, game studio founder and former journalist. She lives in Minneapolis with her husband and three children and told Sonali Kolhatkar what she's been witnessing over the past two weeks. </p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So first, tell me what is it that you have witnessed. What we are seeing here in Southern California, where I'm based, or just news reports, are people like yourself, documenting the abuses, posting it to social media, and it looks terrifying to just even walk on the streets of Minneapolis these days. Give us a sense of what it's like right now.</p><p><strong>Maria Burns Ortiz:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, you know, I think it's a very scary time here for a lot of people. Normally it's Minnesota in the winter, where it's cold. But… I keep telling people, and I think people kind of don't understand, what you're seeing? It's actually worse. There is fear within, especially the immigrant community here that, that people are terrified. You know, they are staying in houses, they are going into hiding. This is not an exaggeration. People are being grabbed off the streets. They're being taken when they're dropping their children at the school bus. Multiple cases of this have been reported. There are American citizens being ripped out of their cars, as my husband and I and a number of other citizens saw last week, just off of the streets.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, I think that … the [ICE] intent, it feels like, as someone living here, is just as too sow terror. But at the same time, I think also looking at the way that the city, the residents here have responded. I think that's a really important part of it as well, because people are not just taking it and accepting that our neighbors and our friends are being literally ripped from their families and their homes.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING MARIA BURNS ORTIZ - In the weeks after the January 7th ICE killing of Renee Good, a Minneapolis mother and wife, protests have continued to escalate in response to the violence of federal agents. </p><p>Reports of horrific savagery at the hands of ICE agents against immigrants and citizens, women and men and even babies, are emerging. Rightwing agitators such as <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/18/us/jake-lang-minneapolis-protest-ice?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><u>Jake Lang</u></a> have also descended on Minneapolis. </p><p>Among those who have been witnessing and documenting the chaos on the streets of the twin cities is Maria Burns Ortiz, a nonprofit executive director, game studio founder and former journalist. She lives in Minneapolis with her husband and three children and told Sonali Kolhatkar what she's been witnessing over the past two weeks. </p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So first, tell me what is it that you have witnessed. What we are seeing here in Southern California, where I'm based, or just news reports, are people like yourself, documenting the abuses, posting it to social media, and it looks terrifying to just even walk on the streets of Minneapolis these days. Give us a sense of what it's like right now.</p><p><strong>Maria Burns Ortiz:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, you know, I think it's a very scary time here for a lot of people. Normally it's Minnesota in the winter, where it's cold. But… I keep telling people, and I think people kind of don't understand, what you're seeing? It's actually worse. There is fear within, especially the immigrant community here that, that people are terrified. You know, they are staying in houses, they are going into hiding. This is not an exaggeration. People are being grabbed off the streets. They're being taken when they're dropping their children at the school bus. Multiple cases of this have been reported. There are American citizens being ripped out of their cars, as my husband and I and a number of other citizens saw last week, just off of the streets.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, I think that … the [ICE] intent, it feels like, as someone living here, is just as too sow terror. But at the same time, I think also looking at the way that the city, the residents here have responded. I think that's a really important part of it as well, because people are not just taking it and accepting that our neighbors and our friends are being literally ripped from their families and their homes.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING TAMAR SARAI - On November 4, 2025, the small New England town of <a href="https://prismreports.org/2025/11/18/somerville-ballot-question-3-israel/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><u>Somerville, Massachusetts</u></a> became the first in the nation to pass a ballot measure instructing local authorities to divest from Israel. The vote, labeled “Question 3” passed with 56% support. Weeks later, the Somerville City Council followed through with the voter demand and passed a resolution to follow through on the process of divestment.&nbsp;</p><p>How did Somerville do it and how can other cities follow suit?</p><p>Tamar Sarai is a Philadelphia based journalist. She is currently a contributing writer at Prism as well as a History PhD student at Temple University and <a href="https://prismreports.org/2025/11/18/somerville-ballot-question-3-israel/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">wrote about Somerville's Question 3 fight</a>. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the story. </p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So let's talk about Somerville's, small little town, but very liberal. And although it sounds like something that might be seen as not terribly surprising, as you point out in your story on Prism, the issue of Question 3 was not without challenges. How did it start? I understand it was just two short years ago that a single individual was able to begin mobilizing and helped form a broad-based coalition to make this question and ballot measure possible?</p><p><strong>Tamar Sarai:</strong>&nbsp;Yes, yes. So, the organization behind the ballot question is called Somerville for Palestine. And it's a group of local organizers, community members that came together at the end of 2023, and they were really committed to having their city council pass a ceasefire resolution. And so they successfully advocated for that ceasefire resolution, and it passed in January of 2024, making Somerville actually the first city in Massachusetts to put to pass their own ceasefire resolution.&nbsp;</p><p>So, that was a big win for Somerville for Palestine especially given the fact that the coalition was so new. And from there, they really wanted to make sure that Somerville was a part of the BDS movement. So, “boycott, divest, sanction,” and that started with organizers just following the money and doing a lot of in-depth research.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING TAMAR SARAI - On November 4, 2025, the small New England town of <a href="https://prismreports.org/2025/11/18/somerville-ballot-question-3-israel/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><u>Somerville, Massachusetts</u></a> became the first in the nation to pass a ballot measure instructing local authorities to divest from Israel. The vote, labeled “Question 3” passed with 56% support. Weeks later, the Somerville City Council followed through with the voter demand and passed a resolution to follow through on the process of divestment.&nbsp;</p><p>How did Somerville do it and how can other cities follow suit?</p><p>Tamar Sarai is a Philadelphia based journalist. She is currently a contributing writer at Prism as well as a History PhD student at Temple University and <a href="https://prismreports.org/2025/11/18/somerville-ballot-question-3-israel/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">wrote about Somerville's Question 3 fight</a>. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the story. </p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So let's talk about Somerville's, small little town, but very liberal. And although it sounds like something that might be seen as not terribly surprising, as you point out in your story on Prism, the issue of Question 3 was not without challenges. How did it start? I understand it was just two short years ago that a single individual was able to begin mobilizing and helped form a broad-based coalition to make this question and ballot measure possible?</p><p><strong>Tamar Sarai:</strong>&nbsp;Yes, yes. So, the organization behind the ballot question is called Somerville for Palestine. And it's a group of local organizers, community members that came together at the end of 2023, and they were really committed to having their city council pass a ceasefire resolution. And so they successfully advocated for that ceasefire resolution, and it passed in January of 2024, making Somerville actually the first city in Massachusetts to put to pass their own ceasefire resolution.&nbsp;</p><p>So, that was a big win for Somerville for Palestine especially given the fact that the coalition was so new. And from there, they really wanted to make sure that Somerville was a part of the BDS movement. So, “boycott, divest, sanction,” and that started with organizers just following the money and doing a lot of in-depth research.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DORTELL WILLIAMS - <em>Crime, we know, is linked to wealth inequality. But it’s also built on social fracturing. Our special correspondent Dortell Williams has thought long and hard about the roots of public safety, how to preserve and strengthen it, and says that mentorship is a powerful, and underrated mode of human connection that can prevent crimes.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Dortell Williams, incarcerated individual at Mule Creek State Prison, serving a sentence of life without parole, currently seeking his freedom at </em><a href="http://www.freedortellwilliams.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>www.FreeDortellWilliams.com</u></em></a><em>. Dortell is a regular correspondent on Rising Up With Sonali. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about mentorship, his experience with it, and why it works. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:&nbsp;</strong>One of the things that takes up your attention is how folks who are, whether they're incarcerated or not incarcerated, can benefit from mentorship. It's something that I've thought about over the years as someone who's, you know, had younger people I've mentored, but after having gotten to know you and some of the work that you do, it seems as though mentorship, especially within prison walls, can be life-changing and even life-saving. Would you say that?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dortell Williams:</strong>&nbsp;Oh, absolutely. And I, think my idea of mentorship is to have mentorship before we end up going to prison. Because so many of us, I mean, when you think about it, most of the kids who go astray are misguided. They've been misguided sometimes by their own parents. I'm one of them. I love my dad. My dad was, you know, as good as he could be at the time, but unfortunately, you know, he had his own traumas, and so he misguided me into criminality and, you know, those types of things.&nbsp;</p><p>And, just like so many of the other youth out there, you know, we needed intervention. A real robust policy of intervention is the best way to tackle crime and to approach public policy, you know, for obvious reasons.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DORTELL WILLIAMS - <em>Crime, we know, is linked to wealth inequality. But it’s also built on social fracturing. Our special correspondent Dortell Williams has thought long and hard about the roots of public safety, how to preserve and strengthen it, and says that mentorship is a powerful, and underrated mode of human connection that can prevent crimes.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Dortell Williams, incarcerated individual at Mule Creek State Prison, serving a sentence of life without parole, currently seeking his freedom at </em><a href="http://www.freedortellwilliams.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>www.FreeDortellWilliams.com</u></em></a><em>. Dortell is a regular correspondent on Rising Up With Sonali. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about mentorship, his experience with it, and why it works. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:&nbsp;</strong>One of the things that takes up your attention is how folks who are, whether they're incarcerated or not incarcerated, can benefit from mentorship. It's something that I've thought about over the years as someone who's, you know, had younger people I've mentored, but after having gotten to know you and some of the work that you do, it seems as though mentorship, especially within prison walls, can be life-changing and even life-saving. Would you say that?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dortell Williams:</strong>&nbsp;Oh, absolutely. And I, think my idea of mentorship is to have mentorship before we end up going to prison. Because so many of us, I mean, when you think about it, most of the kids who go astray are misguided. They've been misguided sometimes by their own parents. I'm one of them. I love my dad. My dad was, you know, as good as he could be at the time, but unfortunately, you know, he had his own traumas, and so he misguided me into criminality and, you know, those types of things.&nbsp;</p><p>And, just like so many of the other youth out there, you know, we needed intervention. A real robust policy of intervention is the best way to tackle crime and to approach public policy, you know, for obvious reasons.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING MARIANNE DHENIN - <em>In October 2025, California Governor Gavin Newsom signed Assembly Bill 715 into law, a troubling piece of legislation aimed at public education in the state, primarily around criticism of Israel.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>The bill’s opponents say it is vague, rife with potential for abuse, and clearly violates the First Amendment of teachers and students. A growing coalition of educators and activists are hoping to beat it back.&nbsp;</em></p><p><a href="https://newsletter.mariannedhenin.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Marianne Dhenin</em></a><em> is an award-winning journalist and historian whose recent story is called </em><a href="https://newsletter.mariannedhenin.com/a-growing-coalition-is-fighting-censorship-in-californias-public-schools/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>A Growing Coalition is Fighting Censorship in California’s Public Schools</u></em></a><em>. Marianne spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the story recently. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:&nbsp;</strong>This story is so interesting because one of the, I think, less-reported aspects of it that you really lift up in your piece is how there's this unholy alliance, or maybe even just such an overlap, between those people who have gone after anti-Israel criticism and those people who have attacked ethnic studies in public schools in California. The pro-Israel crowd meets the MAGA crowd, and of course, many of them are one in the same. So tell me about AB 715 , how it is that this intersection of people who attack ethnic studies and criticism of Israel came together to pass this bill.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Marianne Dhenin:</strong>&nbsp;AB 715 comes after a couple of years of efforts in California's legislature. A series of bills have been introduced over the past couple of years since California enshrined an ethnic studies graduation requirement into law back in 2021 with AB101. AB 715 is the first in a series of bills that have attacked ethnic studies education in California to pass and to be signed into law.&nbsp;</p><p>Several of these have come out of California's legislative Jewish caucus, which is a group of democratic lawmakers, but pro-Israel lawmakers.&nbsp;</p><p>Not everyone in the caucus is Jewish, and the caucus doesn't represent the diversity of California's Jewish communities according to the sources that I spoke with, which include organizers with Jewish voice for peace. So, after a couple of years of efforts, AB 715 has passed.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING MARIANNE DHENIN - <em>In October 2025, California Governor Gavin Newsom signed Assembly Bill 715 into law, a troubling piece of legislation aimed at public education in the state, primarily around criticism of Israel.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>The bill’s opponents say it is vague, rife with potential for abuse, and clearly violates the First Amendment of teachers and students. A growing coalition of educators and activists are hoping to beat it back.&nbsp;</em></p><p><a href="https://newsletter.mariannedhenin.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Marianne Dhenin</em></a><em> is an award-winning journalist and historian whose recent story is called </em><a href="https://newsletter.mariannedhenin.com/a-growing-coalition-is-fighting-censorship-in-californias-public-schools/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>A Growing Coalition is Fighting Censorship in California’s Public Schools</u></em></a><em>. Marianne spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the story recently. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:&nbsp;</strong>This story is so interesting because one of the, I think, less-reported aspects of it that you really lift up in your piece is how there's this unholy alliance, or maybe even just such an overlap, between those people who have gone after anti-Israel criticism and those people who have attacked ethnic studies in public schools in California. The pro-Israel crowd meets the MAGA crowd, and of course, many of them are one in the same. So tell me about AB 715 , how it is that this intersection of people who attack ethnic studies and criticism of Israel came together to pass this bill.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Marianne Dhenin:</strong>&nbsp;AB 715 comes after a couple of years of efforts in California's legislature. A series of bills have been introduced over the past couple of years since California enshrined an ethnic studies graduation requirement into law back in 2021 with AB101. AB 715 is the first in a series of bills that have attacked ethnic studies education in California to pass and to be signed into law.&nbsp;</p><p>Several of these have come out of California's legislative Jewish caucus, which is a group of democratic lawmakers, but pro-Israel lawmakers.&nbsp;</p><p>Not everyone in the caucus is Jewish, and the caucus doesn't represent the diversity of California's Jewish communities according to the sources that I spoke with, which include organizers with Jewish voice for peace. So, after a couple of years of efforts, AB 715 has passed.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ANDY LEE ROTH - <em>As Netflix and Paramount make </em><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/business/media/paramount-hostile-bid-warner-bros-discovery-rcna247993?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>aggressive bids</u></em></a><em> to buy Warner Bros, our increasingly consolidated media ecosphere, controlled by billionaires and serving their agendas, distorts, under-covers, or even censors major news stories entirely. It’s a long trend that’s getting worse, and is the reason why Project Censored, now in its 50th year, continues to publish the most censored news stories of the year.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Andy Lee Roth is editor-at-large for </em><a href="https://www.projectcensored.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Project Censored</em></a><em> and its publishing imprint, The Censored Press. He is co-editor of Project’s </em><a href="https://www.project-censored.org/shop/p/state-of-the-free-press-2026?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>State of the Free Press 2026</em></a><em> and a coauthor of The Media and Me: A Guide to Critical Media Literacy for Young People.&nbsp;He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about some of the year's most censored stories. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, as I mentioned, we are seeing greater media consolidation. I figure, eventually, maybe in our lifetimes, there'll be one great company controlling it all, and of course that limitation of who's in charge limits the stories as well. Tell me, just for those who aren't familiar with Project Censored, what is this State of the Free Press book that comes out at the end of every year, and why is it put together?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Andy Lee Roth:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. Well, the project exists to hold the corporate media accountable when they fail to provide us the kind of news and information that we need to be informed and engaged in our communities as citizens, as global citizens. And also, to celebrate the important work of independent journalists who bring us those stories and independent news outlets who have the courage to support research on, and publish those stories. So, a kind of a cornerstone of the yearbook every year is our report on the year's most important, but under reported stories. And that's something the project has been doing for 50 years now.&nbsp;</p><p>This is the 50th cohort of undergraduate students working with Project Censored at colleges and universities across the country, starting at Sonoma State University in California. Students working with their faculty mentors are identifying these important but potentially undercovered stories and then researching them to see, have they indeed been left unaddressed by corporate media, or addressed, but in partial terms in both senses of that word, partial, either incomplete or also biased?</p>
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<p>FEATURING ANDY LEE ROTH - <em>As Netflix and Paramount make </em><a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/business/media/paramount-hostile-bid-warner-bros-discovery-rcna247993?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>aggressive bids</u></em></a><em> to buy Warner Bros, our increasingly consolidated media ecosphere, controlled by billionaires and serving their agendas, distorts, under-covers, or even censors major news stories entirely. It’s a long trend that’s getting worse, and is the reason why Project Censored, now in its 50th year, continues to publish the most censored news stories of the year.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Andy Lee Roth is editor-at-large for </em><a href="https://www.projectcensored.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Project Censored</em></a><em> and its publishing imprint, The Censored Press. He is co-editor of Project’s </em><a href="https://www.project-censored.org/shop/p/state-of-the-free-press-2026?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>State of the Free Press 2026</em></a><em> and a coauthor of The Media and Me: A Guide to Critical Media Literacy for Young People.&nbsp;He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about some of the year's most censored stories. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, as I mentioned, we are seeing greater media consolidation. I figure, eventually, maybe in our lifetimes, there'll be one great company controlling it all, and of course that limitation of who's in charge limits the stories as well. Tell me, just for those who aren't familiar with Project Censored, what is this State of the Free Press book that comes out at the end of every year, and why is it put together?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Andy Lee Roth:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. Well, the project exists to hold the corporate media accountable when they fail to provide us the kind of news and information that we need to be informed and engaged in our communities as citizens, as global citizens. And also, to celebrate the important work of independent journalists who bring us those stories and independent news outlets who have the courage to support research on, and publish those stories. So, a kind of a cornerstone of the yearbook every year is our report on the year's most important, but under reported stories. And that's something the project has been doing for 50 years now.&nbsp;</p><p>This is the 50th cohort of undergraduate students working with Project Censored at colleges and universities across the country, starting at Sonoma State University in California. Students working with their faculty mentors are identifying these important but potentially undercovered stories and then researching them to see, have they indeed been left unaddressed by corporate media, or addressed, but in partial terms in both senses of that word, partial, either incomplete or also biased?</p>
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<p>FEATURING JUDITH ENCK - <em>We are awash in plastics, from the polyester clothing on our backs, to the glasses on our face, the polish on our nails, the packaging of our food, and even the microplastics flowing through our blood. In less than a century, plastic has revolutionized our lives and leaves a legacy that is slowly poisoning us.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Now, as we enter the thick of holiday season, the plastic consumption is ramping up, from plastic toys and gifts and giftwrap, to plastic-packaged foods and dinner ware and more.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>&nbsp;Can we free ourselves of plastic? Yes we can, says Judith Enck, founder and president of </em><a href="https://www.beyondplastics.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Beyond Plastics</em></a><em>, an organization whose goal is eliminating plastic pollution everywhere. Enck was appointed by President Obama to serve as regional administrator at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in 2009 and served as deputy secretary for the environment in the New York Governor’s Office. </em></p><p><em>Enck is currently a professor at Bennington College and the author of the new book <strong>The Problem With Plastic: How We Can Save Ourselves and Our Planet Before It’s Too Late</strong>. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how people can take political action, and how you can have a plastic-free holiday this year. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I think a lot of people understand now that plastic is a problem, but maybe they're not as aware just how deeply embedded it is in our lives and actually, in our bodies itself. I remember the first time I read about microplastics polluting the ocean, you know, from those little tiny beads that some manufacturers decided it would be good to put in things like lotion and soap, to finding out that plastic filaments are in our bloodstream. And it was quite shocking. So how do you explain how that even happens? How does, how does plastic get into our bodies? We just surround ourselves with so much plastic, it's just everywhere now?</p><p><strong>Judith Enck:</strong>&nbsp;Well, none of us voted for more plastic. the reason we have so much plastic is because there is a glut of fracked gas on the market. Historically, plastics were made from oil and chemicals. Today it's made from 16,000 different chemicals and ethane, which is a byproduct of fracking 'cause there's a glut of frack gas. Fossil fuel companies are using that waste product to produce new plastic products.&nbsp;</p><p>The way plastics get into our bodies is we're either breathing it in or we're swallowing, particularly from food and beverage packaging. And the health consequences are quite significant.&nbsp;</p><p>So, scientific researchers have found the presence of microplastics in our blood, our lungs, our kidney, our heart arteries, where they've seen microplastics attached to plaque. If you've got microplastics on plaque, you have a much greater risk of developing heart disease, stroke, premature death.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING JUDITH ENCK - <em>We are awash in plastics, from the polyester clothing on our backs, to the glasses on our face, the polish on our nails, the packaging of our food, and even the microplastics flowing through our blood. In less than a century, plastic has revolutionized our lives and leaves a legacy that is slowly poisoning us.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Now, as we enter the thick of holiday season, the plastic consumption is ramping up, from plastic toys and gifts and giftwrap, to plastic-packaged foods and dinner ware and more.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>&nbsp;Can we free ourselves of plastic? Yes we can, says Judith Enck, founder and president of </em><a href="https://www.beyondplastics.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Beyond Plastics</em></a><em>, an organization whose goal is eliminating plastic pollution everywhere. Enck was appointed by President Obama to serve as regional administrator at the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency in 2009 and served as deputy secretary for the environment in the New York Governor’s Office. </em></p><p><em>Enck is currently a professor at Bennington College and the author of the new book <strong>The Problem With Plastic: How We Can Save Ourselves and Our Planet Before It’s Too Late</strong>. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how people can take political action, and how you can have a plastic-free holiday this year. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I think a lot of people understand now that plastic is a problem, but maybe they're not as aware just how deeply embedded it is in our lives and actually, in our bodies itself. I remember the first time I read about microplastics polluting the ocean, you know, from those little tiny beads that some manufacturers decided it would be good to put in things like lotion and soap, to finding out that plastic filaments are in our bloodstream. And it was quite shocking. So how do you explain how that even happens? How does, how does plastic get into our bodies? We just surround ourselves with so much plastic, it's just everywhere now?</p><p><strong>Judith Enck:</strong>&nbsp;Well, none of us voted for more plastic. the reason we have so much plastic is because there is a glut of fracked gas on the market. Historically, plastics were made from oil and chemicals. Today it's made from 16,000 different chemicals and ethane, which is a byproduct of fracking 'cause there's a glut of frack gas. Fossil fuel companies are using that waste product to produce new plastic products.&nbsp;</p><p>The way plastics get into our bodies is we're either breathing it in or we're swallowing, particularly from food and beverage packaging. And the health consequences are quite significant.&nbsp;</p><p>So, scientific researchers have found the presence of microplastics in our blood, our lungs, our kidney, our heart arteries, where they've seen microplastics attached to plaque. If you've got microplastics on plaque, you have a much greater risk of developing heart disease, stroke, premature death.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING NORMAN SOLOMON - <em>Corporate Democrats pushed progressive alternatives out of the way to promote themselves as alternatives to Trump–and lost–in 2016 and 2024. That’s the assertion central to a new book by Norman Solomon called </em><a href="http://www.blueroad.info/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>The Blue Road to Trump Hell: How Corporate Democrats Paved the Way for Autocracy</em></a><em>. </em></p><p><em>With three long years of Trump’s second term stretching before us, Solomon urges a critical analysis of just how destructive figures like Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer and even Barack Obama have been, and why it’s essential to defeat them in order to defeat Trumpism.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Norman Solomon, national director of </em><a href="https://rootsaction.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>RootsAction</em></a><em> and executive director of the </em><a href="https://accuracy.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Institute for Public Accuracy</em></a><em>. His  books include War Made Invisible. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about his newlatestbook, The Blue Road to Trump Hell: How Corporate Democrats Paved the Way for Autocracy.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, this book is a very detailed and yet extremely straightforward analysis of how it was that Democrats, particularly the corporate wing of the Democratic Party, paved the way for Trump. Now, that's not something we hear very much, if at all, in the mainstream media, that we blame Democrats for the rise of the top Republican, the most dangerous Republican that we've seen in our lifetime, if not ever. So why, let's talk about… you start the book in the year 2016, and actually you kind of talk about Obama in 2009. Where's the good starting point for that analysis that corporate Democrats are to blame for Trump's rise?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Norman Solomon:</strong>&nbsp;Well, I suppose if we go way back bill Clinton, who sided with big corporations who pushed in NAFTA, who did the Telecommunications Reform Act of 1996, which opened the floodgates for monopolization of media, increasingly right-wing.&nbsp;</p><p>In terms of the book I do refer to Barack Obama, a hero of many democratic liberals and so-called moderates, where he came into office. There were millions and millions of people with their mortgages underwater with toxic mortgages, and he let them sink and he bailed out Wall Street and the big banks. And so even while Obama sailed into reelection as Bill Clinton had, he left the party leaders and especially elected Democrats to drown.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, if we trace where we are now, I think we can go back to, in many ways, the eight years of Obama, both, abandoning middle class and low-income people, at the same time that he let other Democrats sink or swim, often sink, in terms of the rising inequality anger that people justifiably felt.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, what happened during the decade where Obama was in office, basically, 1,000 Democrats lost their seats in state legislatures around the country. So, the Republicans came in, ran more and more state governments and the legislatures there, and they were able to reapportion and gerrymander.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING NORMAN SOLOMON - <em>Corporate Democrats pushed progressive alternatives out of the way to promote themselves as alternatives to Trump–and lost–in 2016 and 2024. That’s the assertion central to a new book by Norman Solomon called </em><a href="http://www.blueroad.info/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>The Blue Road to Trump Hell: How Corporate Democrats Paved the Way for Autocracy</em></a><em>. </em></p><p><em>With three long years of Trump’s second term stretching before us, Solomon urges a critical analysis of just how destructive figures like Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer and even Barack Obama have been, and why it’s essential to defeat them in order to defeat Trumpism.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Norman Solomon, national director of </em><a href="https://rootsaction.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>RootsAction</em></a><em> and executive director of the </em><a href="https://accuracy.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Institute for Public Accuracy</em></a><em>. His  books include War Made Invisible. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about his newlatestbook, The Blue Road to Trump Hell: How Corporate Democrats Paved the Way for Autocracy.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, this book is a very detailed and yet extremely straightforward analysis of how it was that Democrats, particularly the corporate wing of the Democratic Party, paved the way for Trump. Now, that's not something we hear very much, if at all, in the mainstream media, that we blame Democrats for the rise of the top Republican, the most dangerous Republican that we've seen in our lifetime, if not ever. So why, let's talk about… you start the book in the year 2016, and actually you kind of talk about Obama in 2009. Where's the good starting point for that analysis that corporate Democrats are to blame for Trump's rise?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Norman Solomon:</strong>&nbsp;Well, I suppose if we go way back bill Clinton, who sided with big corporations who pushed in NAFTA, who did the Telecommunications Reform Act of 1996, which opened the floodgates for monopolization of media, increasingly right-wing.&nbsp;</p><p>In terms of the book I do refer to Barack Obama, a hero of many democratic liberals and so-called moderates, where he came into office. There were millions and millions of people with their mortgages underwater with toxic mortgages, and he let them sink and he bailed out Wall Street and the big banks. And so even while Obama sailed into reelection as Bill Clinton had, he left the party leaders and especially elected Democrats to drown.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, if we trace where we are now, I think we can go back to, in many ways, the eight years of Obama, both, abandoning middle class and low-income people, at the same time that he let other Democrats sink or swim, often sink, in terms of the rising inequality anger that people justifiably felt.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, what happened during the decade where Obama was in office, basically, 1,000 Democrats lost their seats in state legislatures around the country. So, the Republicans came in, ran more and more state governments and the legislatures there, and they were able to reapportion and gerrymander.&nbsp;</p>
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<p><em>This story was originally published on August 5, 2025. </em></p><p>FEATURING DORTELL WILLIAMS - <em>The United States prison system is one of the harshest and most punitive in the world, locking up nearly 2 million people. According to the </em><a href="https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/pie2025.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Prison Policy Initiative</u></em></a><em>, “The U.S. locks up more people per capita than any other independent democracy, at the staggering rate of 580 per 100,000 residents.” What is the point of such a high rate of incarceration?&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Rehabilitation, we are told, is the goal, and that imprisoning people who are convicted of crimes, will help them and help society. But does this work? Are there even mechanisms in place to measure if it’s working? Or are we merely locking people up and throwing away the keys?</em></p><p><em>But, what about those people who are sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole?</em></p><div class="kg-card kg-cta-card kg-cta-bg-grey kg-cta-immersive  kg-cta-has-img  " data-layout="immersive">
            
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<p><em>This story was originally published on August 5, 2025. </em></p><p>FEATURING DORTELL WILLIAMS - <em>The United States prison system is one of the harshest and most punitive in the world, locking up nearly 2 million people. According to the </em><a href="https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/pie2025.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Prison Policy Initiative</u></em></a><em>, “The U.S. locks up more people per capita than any other independent democracy, at the staggering rate of 580 per 100,000 residents.” What is the point of such a high rate of incarceration?&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Rehabilitation, we are told, is the goal, and that imprisoning people who are convicted of crimes, will help them and help society. But does this work? Are there even mechanisms in place to measure if it’s working? Or are we merely locking people up and throwing away the keys?</em></p><p><em>But, what about those people who are sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole?</em></p><div class="kg-card kg-cta-card kg-cta-bg-grey kg-cta-immersive  kg-cta-has-img  " data-layout="immersive">
            
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<p>FEATURING DINA GILIO-WHITAKER - <em>In August 2022, the </em><a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t/academy-motion-picture-arts-sciences/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em>Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science</em></a><em>s&nbsp; apologized to Sacheen Littlefeather for her mistreatment after her 1973 protest speech at the Oscars. Littlefeather shot to fame when Academy Award winner Marlon Brando asked her to decline the award on his behalf. She read a speech about Hollywood’s discrimination against Indigenous people and was booed off stage and blacklisted ever since. </em></p><p><em>But just days after receiving the Academy’s long-overdue apology, a shocking revelation about Littlefeather raised the fraught question of Indigenous American identity–she was outed as an ethnic fraudster and was revealed to not be who she said she was. The case sparked a new book by Dina Gilio-Whitaker (Colville Confederated Tribes). Gilio-Whitaker is a lecturer of American Indian Studies at California State University San Marcos, and an independent consultant and educator in environmental justice policy planning.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>An award-winning journalist as well, she contributes to numerous online outlets including Indian Country Today and the Los Angeles Times. She is the author of multiple books, including As Long as Grass Grows: The Indigenous Fight for Environmental Justice from Colonization to Standing Rock. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about her new book, </em><a href="https://www.beacon.org/Who-Gets-to-Be-Indian-P2227.aspx?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Who Gets to Be Indian? Ethnic Fraud and Other Difficult Conversations about Native American Identity</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I remember being horribly shocked as well when the revelations about Sacheen Littlefeather came out. I was at that time writing a book about narratives and had actually written a whole section in my book about her putting forward a narrative about racial identity, ethnic identity, and native Americanness, and, had to quickly go back and kind of rewrite some aspects of it.&nbsp;</p><p>And I also remember&nbsp;<em>you</em>&nbsp;on Facebook—we’re Facebook friends—talking about it, you had a little bit of insight before the rest of the world knew what had really happened with Sacheen Littlefeather. Take us through that. You knew before most people did, that she actually wasn't who she said she was. And that was because you yourself had been fascinated by her story. So, tell us about that.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dina Gilio-Whitaker:</strong>&nbsp;Right. Well, this is really the, the point of origin for this book. I mean, it's something I've been thinking about all my life because of my own com complex identity issues. But, the book started as a result of my relationship with Sacheen Littlefeather, which began in 2012 when I was writing for Indian Country today.&nbsp;</p><p>And, I had gotten to know her. I was asked to write a story about her. It was had to do with a Dennis Miller comment about her, a racial slur. And so, it led to my writing this article about that and meeting her.&nbsp;</p><p>After I wrote that article, she asked me if I would be willing to ghostwrite her memoir. She wanted to write this memoir, and this is about a couple years later. And I said, sure, you know, let's explore that. So, it led to this whole experience that I had with her, where we began the process of writing this book together.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DINA GILIO-WHITAKER - <em>In August 2022, the </em><a href="https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t/academy-motion-picture-arts-sciences/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em>Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Science</em></a><em>s&nbsp; apologized to Sacheen Littlefeather for her mistreatment after her 1973 protest speech at the Oscars. Littlefeather shot to fame when Academy Award winner Marlon Brando asked her to decline the award on his behalf. She read a speech about Hollywood’s discrimination against Indigenous people and was booed off stage and blacklisted ever since. </em></p><p><em>But just days after receiving the Academy’s long-overdue apology, a shocking revelation about Littlefeather raised the fraught question of Indigenous American identity–she was outed as an ethnic fraudster and was revealed to not be who she said she was. The case sparked a new book by Dina Gilio-Whitaker (Colville Confederated Tribes). Gilio-Whitaker is a lecturer of American Indian Studies at California State University San Marcos, and an independent consultant and educator in environmental justice policy planning.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>An award-winning journalist as well, she contributes to numerous online outlets including Indian Country Today and the Los Angeles Times. She is the author of multiple books, including As Long as Grass Grows: The Indigenous Fight for Environmental Justice from Colonization to Standing Rock. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about her new book, </em><a href="https://www.beacon.org/Who-Gets-to-Be-Indian-P2227.aspx?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Who Gets to Be Indian? Ethnic Fraud and Other Difficult Conversations about Native American Identity</u></em></a><em>.&nbsp;</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I remember being horribly shocked as well when the revelations about Sacheen Littlefeather came out. I was at that time writing a book about narratives and had actually written a whole section in my book about her putting forward a narrative about racial identity, ethnic identity, and native Americanness, and, had to quickly go back and kind of rewrite some aspects of it.&nbsp;</p><p>And I also remember&nbsp;<em>you</em>&nbsp;on Facebook—we’re Facebook friends—talking about it, you had a little bit of insight before the rest of the world knew what had really happened with Sacheen Littlefeather. Take us through that. You knew before most people did, that she actually wasn't who she said she was. And that was because you yourself had been fascinated by her story. So, tell us about that.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dina Gilio-Whitaker:</strong>&nbsp;Right. Well, this is really the, the point of origin for this book. I mean, it's something I've been thinking about all my life because of my own com complex identity issues. But, the book started as a result of my relationship with Sacheen Littlefeather, which began in 2012 when I was writing for Indian Country today.&nbsp;</p><p>And, I had gotten to know her. I was asked to write a story about her. It was had to do with a Dennis Miller comment about her, a racial slur. And so, it led to my writing this article about that and meeting her.&nbsp;</p><p>After I wrote that article, she asked me if I would be willing to ghostwrite her memoir. She wanted to write this memoir, and this is about a couple years later. And I said, sure, you know, let's explore that. So, it led to this whole experience that I had with her, where we began the process of writing this book together.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ANYA ROSE - <em>The November 2025 elections showed Americans are in a mood to tax the rich to fund the things we all need. That sentiment wasn’t just on display in New York City where voters picked a mayor who promises free childcare paid for by taxing the rich, but the state of Colorado where a pair of propositions in a similar vein passed.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Propositions LL and MM passed by wide margins and levy taxes on the wealthiest Coloradans to ensure school kids are fed at no cost to families and that cafeteria workers would be better paid. The ballot measures come in the wake of a massive political battle that saw interruptions to the federal food stamp program.</em></p><p><em>Anya Rose is the Director of Public Policy at Hunger Free Colorado, a statewide nonprofit that connects people to food resources and drives policy and systems change to end hunger.&nbsp;She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how the ballot measures passed and what they mean for Coloradans.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, let's talk about what these two propositions are. Why were they in two separate propositions to begin with? There's LL and then MM. And since, since you are really in the trenches with this, give us a brief overview of what each of these ballot measures asked of voters.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Anya Rose:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. So, these ballot measures one, there are two of them because of some very particular Colorado laws. But essentially, they are about continuing the Healthy School Meals for All program in Colorado, which was created back in 2022 when voters first agreed to create and fund this program, and has since been wildly popular and, and proven to need some more revenue.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, proposition LL is about asking to keep money that has already been raised for this program. That's something we have to do in Colorado because of provisions in our state constitution called the Taxpayer Bill of Rights that are pretty restrictive about how revenue can be raised and used in our state and also determine election provisions.&nbsp;</p><p>And then proposition MM, was about raising additional revenue to make sure that the program has long term sustainability and can be fully implemented since some pieces that were really important to community have been on hold.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ANYA ROSE - <em>The November 2025 elections showed Americans are in a mood to tax the rich to fund the things we all need. That sentiment wasn’t just on display in New York City where voters picked a mayor who promises free childcare paid for by taxing the rich, but the state of Colorado where a pair of propositions in a similar vein passed.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Propositions LL and MM passed by wide margins and levy taxes on the wealthiest Coloradans to ensure school kids are fed at no cost to families and that cafeteria workers would be better paid. The ballot measures come in the wake of a massive political battle that saw interruptions to the federal food stamp program.</em></p><p><em>Anya Rose is the Director of Public Policy at Hunger Free Colorado, a statewide nonprofit that connects people to food resources and drives policy and systems change to end hunger.&nbsp;She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how the ballot measures passed and what they mean for Coloradans.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, let's talk about what these two propositions are. Why were they in two separate propositions to begin with? There's LL and then MM. And since, since you are really in the trenches with this, give us a brief overview of what each of these ballot measures asked of voters.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Anya Rose:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. So, these ballot measures one, there are two of them because of some very particular Colorado laws. But essentially, they are about continuing the Healthy School Meals for All program in Colorado, which was created back in 2022 when voters first agreed to create and fund this program, and has since been wildly popular and, and proven to need some more revenue.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, proposition LL is about asking to keep money that has already been raised for this program. That's something we have to do in Colorado because of provisions in our state constitution called the Taxpayer Bill of Rights that are pretty restrictive about how revenue can be raised and used in our state and also determine election provisions.&nbsp;</p><p>And then proposition MM, was about raising additional revenue to make sure that the program has long term sustainability and can be fully implemented since some pieces that were really important to community have been on hold.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DIEGO FRANCO -<em> Thousands of Starbucks baristas began an indefinite strike on November 13, the so-called “Red Cup day,” a major holiday-season marketing gimmick by the corporate coffee chain. The workers, who are part of the relatively new Starbucks Workers United union, are saying “</em><a href="https://www.nocontractnocoffee.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>No Contract, No Coffee</em></a><em>,” and are asking members of the public to not cross the picket lines at hundreds of Starbucks cafes around the country until their demands are met.</em></p><p><em>Diego Franco is a six-year Starbucks barista, based in Chicago. He is a member of </em><a href="https://sbworkersunited.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Starbucks Workers United</em></a><em>, where he serves as an elected strike captain and bargaining delegate. He recently wrote an op-ed in USA Today titled “</em><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2025/11/13/starbucks-red-cup-day-strike/87200769007/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>I'm a Starbucks barista. I'm striking because I want 'the best job in retail.</u></em></a><em>”</em></p><p><em>Franco spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about why Starbucks workers are striking. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I've been following the Starbucks organizing effort for the last few years, relatively speaking. It is a new union when it first burst onto the scene and cafes started organizing one cafe at a time. It drew a lot of attention. I think primarily because Starbucks is such an iconic American brand, is this indefinite strike, meaning it's not just a one-day strike, strike until demands are met, an unfair labor practice strike, is this the first major nationwide strike of this nature that the union has taken on?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Diego Franco:</strong>&nbsp;This is not the first nationwide strike, however, this will be the largest strike in the company's history.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;And so why are people striking? And, and I also should emphasize that this is not the case that all Starbucks cafes are unionized, right? There's a fraction of Starbucks cafes that have unionized, albeit very fast. So, it's just those cafes that have union staff that are on strike and, why are they on strike?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Franco:</strong>&nbsp;We are on strike wanting to fight the unfair labor practices and wanting to finish out our contract. Starbucks has been stonewalling us for the past year and don't believe we are deserving of more in our economic package.&nbsp;</p><p>And, notoriously, they have invested a lot of money in union busting campaigns, either across the whole country or on a store-by-store basis. And we're simply doing everything we can to fight that.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DIEGO FRANCO -<em> Thousands of Starbucks baristas began an indefinite strike on November 13, the so-called “Red Cup day,” a major holiday-season marketing gimmick by the corporate coffee chain. The workers, who are part of the relatively new Starbucks Workers United union, are saying “</em><a href="https://www.nocontractnocoffee.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>No Contract, No Coffee</em></a><em>,” and are asking members of the public to not cross the picket lines at hundreds of Starbucks cafes around the country until their demands are met.</em></p><p><em>Diego Franco is a six-year Starbucks barista, based in Chicago. He is a member of </em><a href="https://sbworkersunited.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Starbucks Workers United</em></a><em>, where he serves as an elected strike captain and bargaining delegate. He recently wrote an op-ed in USA Today titled “</em><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2025/11/13/starbucks-red-cup-day-strike/87200769007/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>I'm a Starbucks barista. I'm striking because I want 'the best job in retail.</u></em></a><em>”</em></p><p><em>Franco spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about why Starbucks workers are striking. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I've been following the Starbucks organizing effort for the last few years, relatively speaking. It is a new union when it first burst onto the scene and cafes started organizing one cafe at a time. It drew a lot of attention. I think primarily because Starbucks is such an iconic American brand, is this indefinite strike, meaning it's not just a one-day strike, strike until demands are met, an unfair labor practice strike, is this the first major nationwide strike of this nature that the union has taken on?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Diego Franco:</strong>&nbsp;This is not the first nationwide strike, however, this will be the largest strike in the company's history.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;And so why are people striking? And, and I also should emphasize that this is not the case that all Starbucks cafes are unionized, right? There's a fraction of Starbucks cafes that have unionized, albeit very fast. So, it's just those cafes that have union staff that are on strike and, why are they on strike?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Franco:</strong>&nbsp;We are on strike wanting to fight the unfair labor practices and wanting to finish out our contract. Starbucks has been stonewalling us for the past year and don't believe we are deserving of more in our economic package.&nbsp;</p><p>And, notoriously, they have invested a lot of money in union busting campaigns, either across the whole country or on a store-by-store basis. And we're simply doing everything we can to fight that.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING GABRIELLE OLIVEIRA - <em>Donald Trump’s second term agenda is centered on the criminalization, scapegoating, incarceration, and disappearance of nonwhite immigrants. And although many Americans seem to have forgotten it, his first term was also marked by the same.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>A new book called <u>Now We Are Here: Family Migration, Children’s Education, and Dreams for a Better Life</u>, follows the stories of 16 migrant families from Latin America who were victims of harsh government enforcement through 2018 and 2019, and how their stories distill the deeply-politicized issue of immigration through a much-needed human lens.</em></p><p><em>The book's author, Gabrielle Oliveira, is Jorge Paulo Lemann Associate Professor of Education and Brazil Studies at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar recently about it. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, as I mentioned, a lot of folks forgot the family separation scandal, the horrific kind of human tragedy that unfolded in the years 2016 to 2020. And far too many Americans decided that they could cast their vote for Trump, including people from mixed-status immigrant families. And now we're seeing, I think in escalation even it seems of what happened in the first term.&nbsp;</p><p>So, tell me about these families you profiled and why you wrote this book. These were families that were victimized, criminalized and, really traumatized in 2018 and 2019. Why them?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Gabrielle Oliveira:</strong>&nbsp;Right. So, I was doing work, you know, at the time I was doing work in schools here in Massachusetts that had bilingual programs, which meant that, you know, children were learning in Portuguese and in Spanish. And that has been, you know, some of the work that I've been doing for my own trajectory, my own career.&nbsp;</p><p>And I started hearing during these interviews with families, families describing what had happened to them at the border, either being detained and separated, or detained together. And those stories just seem that, you know, the families were very much still thinking about those stories. The children were bringing those stories to the schools, and the teachers didn't really know what to do with, you know, the stories that were being brought to the school.&nbsp;</p><p>So, for me, it was really important to try to capture in real time what was happening and to hear from the families that had just gone through those separations and detentions, either together right, or being sent to different places in the United States.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING GABRIELLE OLIVEIRA - <em>Donald Trump’s second term agenda is centered on the criminalization, scapegoating, incarceration, and disappearance of nonwhite immigrants. And although many Americans seem to have forgotten it, his first term was also marked by the same.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>A new book called <u>Now We Are Here: Family Migration, Children’s Education, and Dreams for a Better Life</u>, follows the stories of 16 migrant families from Latin America who were victims of harsh government enforcement through 2018 and 2019, and how their stories distill the deeply-politicized issue of immigration through a much-needed human lens.</em></p><p><em>The book's author, Gabrielle Oliveira, is Jorge Paulo Lemann Associate Professor of Education and Brazil Studies at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar recently about it. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, as I mentioned, a lot of folks forgot the family separation scandal, the horrific kind of human tragedy that unfolded in the years 2016 to 2020. And far too many Americans decided that they could cast their vote for Trump, including people from mixed-status immigrant families. And now we're seeing, I think in escalation even it seems of what happened in the first term.&nbsp;</p><p>So, tell me about these families you profiled and why you wrote this book. These were families that were victimized, criminalized and, really traumatized in 2018 and 2019. Why them?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Gabrielle Oliveira:</strong>&nbsp;Right. So, I was doing work, you know, at the time I was doing work in schools here in Massachusetts that had bilingual programs, which meant that, you know, children were learning in Portuguese and in Spanish. And that has been, you know, some of the work that I've been doing for my own trajectory, my own career.&nbsp;</p><p>And I started hearing during these interviews with families, families describing what had happened to them at the border, either being detained and separated, or detained together. And those stories just seem that, you know, the families were very much still thinking about those stories. The children were bringing those stories to the schools, and the teachers didn't really know what to do with, you know, the stories that were being brought to the school.&nbsp;</p><p>So, for me, it was really important to try to capture in real time what was happening and to hear from the families that had just gone through those separations and detentions, either together right, or being sent to different places in the United States.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING OSPREY ORIELLE LAKE - <em>The latest United Nations climate conference, COP30, is taking place in Belem, Brazil where nations are still attempting, after decades, to comprehensively tackle climate change and its impacts head on.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>While much mainstream American discourse on climate justice is centered on preserving humanity and human lives, a new </em><a href="https://www.wecaninternational.org/_files/ugd/e770e6_e1700f638e0842bab74cfd45577caf11.pdf?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>brief</u></em></a><em> by the </em><a href="https://www.wecaninternational.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Women’s Earth and Climate Action Network (WECAN)</u></em></a><em> brings to the forefront a critically important tool for climate justice: the rights of nature, an all-encompassing legal approach to preserving all life.</em></p><p><em>Osprey Orielle Lake is the Founder and Executive Director of the Women's Earth and Climate Action Network (WECAN). She sits on the Executive Committee for the Global Alliance for the Rights of Nature (GARN) and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about WECAN's new report. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;The place that I have heard the rights of nature really come up. and, you know, and I think folks who are engaged in the climate justice movement know of Ecuador's case in 2008, I believe it was, that Ecuador essentially changed its Constitution to encompass, to uphold and to preserve the rights of nature.&nbsp;</p><p>Using that, using Ecuador as an example, how do you explain what it means when you say the rights of nature?</p><p><strong>Osprey Orielle Lake:</strong>&nbsp;Well, it's really an important country where rights of nature, as you said, put in 2008 rights of nature to the Constitution. And it's been a growing movement for many years. in the seventies, there was a professor Christopher Stone who put out a document called “If Trees Had Standing,” which in essence basically said, could we have a form of jurisprudence, a way of law that recognized that the natural world could have its own rights?&nbsp;</p><p>And it's a really important activity, philosophy, and action for the climate justice movement because, right now, nature does not have standing in a court of law. And so, in the new systems that we have since colonialism, people own property. And so, you have to have the property owner represent a river or a mountain or a forest.&nbsp;</p><p>And what rights of nature laws do is they really turn this inside out and upside down, and say, no, we actually are living in a time in which the rivers and the mountains and all of the animals need their own rights to be represented and have their own voice in court of law.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING OSPREY ORIELLE LAKE - <em>The latest United Nations climate conference, COP30, is taking place in Belem, Brazil where nations are still attempting, after decades, to comprehensively tackle climate change and its impacts head on.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>While much mainstream American discourse on climate justice is centered on preserving humanity and human lives, a new </em><a href="https://www.wecaninternational.org/_files/ugd/e770e6_e1700f638e0842bab74cfd45577caf11.pdf?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>brief</u></em></a><em> by the </em><a href="https://www.wecaninternational.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Women’s Earth and Climate Action Network (WECAN)</u></em></a><em> brings to the forefront a critically important tool for climate justice: the rights of nature, an all-encompassing legal approach to preserving all life.</em></p><p><em>Osprey Orielle Lake is the Founder and Executive Director of the Women's Earth and Climate Action Network (WECAN). She sits on the Executive Committee for the Global Alliance for the Rights of Nature (GARN) and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about WECAN's new report. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;The place that I have heard the rights of nature really come up. and, you know, and I think folks who are engaged in the climate justice movement know of Ecuador's case in 2008, I believe it was, that Ecuador essentially changed its Constitution to encompass, to uphold and to preserve the rights of nature.&nbsp;</p><p>Using that, using Ecuador as an example, how do you explain what it means when you say the rights of nature?</p><p><strong>Osprey Orielle Lake:</strong>&nbsp;Well, it's really an important country where rights of nature, as you said, put in 2008 rights of nature to the Constitution. And it's been a growing movement for many years. in the seventies, there was a professor Christopher Stone who put out a document called “If Trees Had Standing,” which in essence basically said, could we have a form of jurisprudence, a way of law that recognized that the natural world could have its own rights?&nbsp;</p><p>And it's a really important activity, philosophy, and action for the climate justice movement because, right now, nature does not have standing in a court of law. And so, in the new systems that we have since colonialism, people own property. And so, you have to have the property owner represent a river or a mountain or a forest.&nbsp;</p><p>And what rights of nature laws do is they really turn this inside out and upside down, and say, no, we actually are living in a time in which the rivers and the mountains and all of the animals need their own rights to be represented and have their own voice in court of law.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING YASHICA DUTT - <em>Zohran Mamdani, the unlikely 34-year old Uganda-born, South Asian, Muslim, immigrant is New York City’s new mayor. </em></p><p><a href="https://newlinesmag.com/writers/yashica-dutt/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Journalist Yashica Dutt</em></a><em>, who has closely followed his campaign </em><a href="https://newlinesmag.com/argument/how-zohran-mamdani-made-history/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>described</em></a><em> last Tuesday’s election this way: “against all odds, Mamdani — through his gifted political acumen, a brilliant team of 30-something managers, and his exceptional hold over his own narrative and messaging — carved his own space in the political mainstream while the establishment was intent on not giving him an inch.”</em></p><p><em>How did he do it? Were there missed opportunities? What are lessons we can learn from his campaign and candidacy?</em></p><p><em>Yashica Dutt is a Dalit journalist and author of the award-winning book on caste, Coming Out as Dalit. She has been covering New York's Mayoral election since April and was the first journalist to extensively cover the South Asian mobilization for the Zohran Mamdani campaign. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what the campaign got right and where it could have done better. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT:</strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, was it surprising for you? I mean, polls showed that he looked like he was going to win. It would've been shocking if he hadn't, it seems. And still it felt, at least for those of us watching from far off, quite unreal. What was that like on election night? What was the atmosphere in the city?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Yashica Dutt:</strong>&nbsp;The atmosphere in the city, not just on election night, but in the weeks before the election was absolutely electric. I have been reporting, like you mentioned, since April, and there was such a stark difference in what we saw during the primary.&nbsp;</p><p>Even before the primary election in New York, there was a sense that Mandani could win. As somebody who had been attending all these events and seeing the response from people change towards him in such a dramatic way. I remember I attended this event in Ozone Park, which is a Bangladeshi majority neighborhood here in Queens in New York City, and he literally got mobbed by Desi folks, a lot of people who wanted to get photos clicked with him.&nbsp;</p><p>People saw on their Instagram stories that he was there, and they just rushed to see him, to get a glimpse of him. And that was before the primary. So, you can imagine after months of excitement and the polls that really showed him way ahead of Andrew Cuomo, and also the events that he had done.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING YASHICA DUTT - <em>Zohran Mamdani, the unlikely 34-year old Uganda-born, South Asian, Muslim, immigrant is New York City’s new mayor. </em></p><p><a href="https://newlinesmag.com/writers/yashica-dutt/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Journalist Yashica Dutt</em></a><em>, who has closely followed his campaign </em><a href="https://newlinesmag.com/argument/how-zohran-mamdani-made-history/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>described</em></a><em> last Tuesday’s election this way: “against all odds, Mamdani — through his gifted political acumen, a brilliant team of 30-something managers, and his exceptional hold over his own narrative and messaging — carved his own space in the political mainstream while the establishment was intent on not giving him an inch.”</em></p><p><em>How did he do it? Were there missed opportunities? What are lessons we can learn from his campaign and candidacy?</em></p><p><em>Yashica Dutt is a Dalit journalist and author of the award-winning book on caste, Coming Out as Dalit. She has been covering New York's Mayoral election since April and was the first journalist to extensively cover the South Asian mobilization for the Zohran Mamdani campaign. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what the campaign got right and where it could have done better. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT:</strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, was it surprising for you? I mean, polls showed that he looked like he was going to win. It would've been shocking if he hadn't, it seems. And still it felt, at least for those of us watching from far off, quite unreal. What was that like on election night? What was the atmosphere in the city?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Yashica Dutt:</strong>&nbsp;The atmosphere in the city, not just on election night, but in the weeks before the election was absolutely electric. I have been reporting, like you mentioned, since April, and there was such a stark difference in what we saw during the primary.&nbsp;</p><p>Even before the primary election in New York, there was a sense that Mandani could win. As somebody who had been attending all these events and seeing the response from people change towards him in such a dramatic way. I remember I attended this event in Ozone Park, which is a Bangladeshi majority neighborhood here in Queens in New York City, and he literally got mobbed by Desi folks, a lot of people who wanted to get photos clicked with him.&nbsp;</p><p>People saw on their Instagram stories that he was there, and they just rushed to see him, to get a glimpse of him. And that was before the primary. So, you can imagine after months of excitement and the polls that really showed him way ahead of Andrew Cuomo, and also the events that he had done.&nbsp;</p>
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                    <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2025 07:00:54 -0800
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<p>FEATURING JEAN SU - <em>A massive push for data centers around the nation threatens to undermine progress in combating climate change. Our voracious appetite for cloud storage, search engines, and especially artificial intelligence has a serious real-world impact–one that threatens our very existence.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>A new </em><a href="https://biologicaldiversity.org/programs/climate_law_institute/pdfs/DataCrunch_report.pdf?_gl=1*1f8hxtd*_gcl_au*MTcxMDQ3NDUzMS4xNzYxODM5MTQ0&ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>report</u></em></a><em> by the </em><a href="https://biologicaldiversity.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Center for Biological Diversity</u></em></a><em> outlines this threat and how it can be addressed.&nbsp;Jean Su is the energy justice director for the Center for Biological Diversity, based in Washington, DC and she shared the report's recommendations with Sonali Kolhatkar. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, of course we've dealt with or lived with, I should say, issues around what powers search engines and cloud storage, and that, in and of itself has been a concern. But just in the last few years, the incredible reliance on artificial intelligence seems to have hypercharged, I think, this impact, particularly as we're seeing Wall Street, you know, new startups, hedge fund investors you know, all of these ventures, including government support being thrown behind this technology that uses massive amounts of energy. How serious is the fossil fuel impact of AI data centers?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Jean Su:</strong>&nbsp;So, the fossil fuel impact of data centers is extremely grave and serious. Just to give you a comparison, web services, search engines, all of those things you just mentioned are one 10th of the electricity that's needed to actually fuel AI, artificial intelligence. So that's a huge difference.&nbsp;</p><p>What we did was that, we calculated the projected carbon emissions of this surge in an AI boom, and we found the carbon emissions from a primarily fracked gas-powered expansion are incredibly large, and they're so large that they could undermine our national climate target for 2035 by 60% in, in the sense that other sectors would have to actually cut an extra 60% for us to even meet our climate goal of trying to limit greenhouse gases to a livable planet.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING JEAN SU - <em>A massive push for data centers around the nation threatens to undermine progress in combating climate change. Our voracious appetite for cloud storage, search engines, and especially artificial intelligence has a serious real-world impact–one that threatens our very existence.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>A new </em><a href="https://biologicaldiversity.org/programs/climate_law_institute/pdfs/DataCrunch_report.pdf?_gl=1*1f8hxtd*_gcl_au*MTcxMDQ3NDUzMS4xNzYxODM5MTQ0&ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>report</u></em></a><em> by the </em><a href="https://biologicaldiversity.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Center for Biological Diversity</u></em></a><em> outlines this threat and how it can be addressed.&nbsp;Jean Su is the energy justice director for the Center for Biological Diversity, based in Washington, DC and she shared the report's recommendations with Sonali Kolhatkar. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, of course we've dealt with or lived with, I should say, issues around what powers search engines and cloud storage, and that, in and of itself has been a concern. But just in the last few years, the incredible reliance on artificial intelligence seems to have hypercharged, I think, this impact, particularly as we're seeing Wall Street, you know, new startups, hedge fund investors you know, all of these ventures, including government support being thrown behind this technology that uses massive amounts of energy. How serious is the fossil fuel impact of AI data centers?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Jean Su:</strong>&nbsp;So, the fossil fuel impact of data centers is extremely grave and serious. Just to give you a comparison, web services, search engines, all of those things you just mentioned are one 10th of the electricity that's needed to actually fuel AI, artificial intelligence. So that's a huge difference.&nbsp;</p><p>What we did was that, we calculated the projected carbon emissions of this surge in an AI boom, and we found the carbon emissions from a primarily fracked gas-powered expansion are incredibly large, and they're so large that they could undermine our national climate target for 2035 by 60% in, in the sense that other sectors would have to actually cut an extra 60% for us to even meet our climate goal of trying to limit greenhouse gases to a livable planet.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING TOM MOORE - <em>Ask most ordinary Americans what is the biggest source of corruption in elections and many would say “</em><a href="https://issueone.org/press/new-polling-citizens-united-money-in-politics-reforms/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>money in politics</em></a><em>,” or, if they were really well-informed, “dark money,” or “the Supreme Court’s Citizen’s United decision.” For a long time we’ve accepted the assumption that the only way to undo that 2010 Supreme Court ruling was for Congress to pass legislation doing so or for the court itself to change its mind–both, extremely unlikely scenarios.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Now, voters in Montana are gearing up to ban corporate dark money in their state in 2026 by using a simple and innovative redefinition of what a corporation is. If they succeed, it could open the door for all states to do the same.</em></p><div class="kg-card kg-cta-card kg-cta-bg-yellow kg-cta-minimal  kg-cta-has-img  kg-cta-centered" data-layout="minimal">
            
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<p>FEATURING TOM MOORE - <em>Ask most ordinary Americans what is the biggest source of corruption in elections and many would say “</em><a href="https://issueone.org/press/new-polling-citizens-united-money-in-politics-reforms/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>money in politics</em></a><em>,” or, if they were really well-informed, “dark money,” or “the Supreme Court’s Citizen’s United decision.” For a long time we’ve accepted the assumption that the only way to undo that 2010 Supreme Court ruling was for Congress to pass legislation doing so or for the court itself to change its mind–both, extremely unlikely scenarios.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Now, voters in Montana are gearing up to ban corporate dark money in their state in 2026 by using a simple and innovative redefinition of what a corporation is. If they succeed, it could open the door for all states to do the same.</em></p><div class="kg-card kg-cta-card kg-cta-bg-yellow kg-cta-minimal  kg-cta-has-img  kg-cta-centered" data-layout="minimal">
            
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<p>FEATURING GUILLAUME LONG - <em>For months now, the Trump administration has been building up military hardware in and around the </em><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c709rwxzx9yo?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Caribbean</u></em></a><em> and making inflammatory statements implying an impending war with Venezuela. US airstrikes on ships in the region have killed dozens of people under the dubious claim of illegal narcotics shipments. But, in a recent CBS interview, Trump claimed it was unlikely he would launch a war on Venezuela.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Guillaume Long is a senior research fellow at </em><a href="https://cepr.net/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Center for Economic and Policy Research</em></a><em>. He has held several cabinet positions in the government of Ecuador, including Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Culture, and Minister of Knowledge and Human Talent. Most recently, he served as Ecuador’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations in Geneva. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about why the US is bombing ships in the Caribbean and whether Trump will launch a war on Venezuela.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, I feel as though, looking at what Trump is doing in Venezuela, we really need to go back to the very beginning of his term this January, where he signed an executive order declaring drug traffickers to be effectively foreign terrorist: “Designating cartels and other organizations as foreign terrorist organizations, and specially-designated global terrorists.” That was the name of his executive order. Is this what he is drawing from, as far as you can tell, in terms of creating his own authority to, to drop bombs and to make threats against Venezuela?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Guillaume Long:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, I think there's… we have to differentiate a few things. I think you're absolutely right. I mean, naming cartels ‘terrorist organizations’ and, and sort of doubling down on the war on drugs and really sort of heightening and raising the tone of the whole war on drugs, and making that parallel between ‘war on drugs’ and ‘war on terror,’ which is not the first time it's been done.&nbsp;</p><p>The word ‘narcoterrorism’ goes back now, a couple of decades. It was done under the Bush administration as well. But, doing all this, has been one of the aspects of the Trump administration in the Western Hemisphere, and it's in the US policy towards Latin America. And it's part and parcel of a return to Latin America under a security guise, right?&nbsp;</p><p>We are really seeing the United States ‘securitizing,’ I don't really like that verb, but, you know, making security the big deal of the US' approach towards Latin America. It is all about security. Which essentially means US policy towards Latin America right now is all about ‘big stick,’ right? It's about security. It's about, now we're, we're gonna be talking about it. It's about gunboat diplomacy. It's about wielding a big stick and there's not much carrot. It's all about, you know, ‘do this or else.’&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING GUILLAUME LONG - <em>For months now, the Trump administration has been building up military hardware in and around the </em><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c709rwxzx9yo?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Caribbean</u></em></a><em> and making inflammatory statements implying an impending war with Venezuela. US airstrikes on ships in the region have killed dozens of people under the dubious claim of illegal narcotics shipments. But, in a recent CBS interview, Trump claimed it was unlikely he would launch a war on Venezuela.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Guillaume Long is a senior research fellow at </em><a href="https://cepr.net/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Center for Economic and Policy Research</em></a><em>. He has held several cabinet positions in the government of Ecuador, including Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Culture, and Minister of Knowledge and Human Talent. Most recently, he served as Ecuador’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations in Geneva. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about why the US is bombing ships in the Caribbean and whether Trump will launch a war on Venezuela.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, I feel as though, looking at what Trump is doing in Venezuela, we really need to go back to the very beginning of his term this January, where he signed an executive order declaring drug traffickers to be effectively foreign terrorist: “Designating cartels and other organizations as foreign terrorist organizations, and specially-designated global terrorists.” That was the name of his executive order. Is this what he is drawing from, as far as you can tell, in terms of creating his own authority to, to drop bombs and to make threats against Venezuela?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Guillaume Long:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, I think there's… we have to differentiate a few things. I think you're absolutely right. I mean, naming cartels ‘terrorist organizations’ and, and sort of doubling down on the war on drugs and really sort of heightening and raising the tone of the whole war on drugs, and making that parallel between ‘war on drugs’ and ‘war on terror,’ which is not the first time it's been done.&nbsp;</p><p>The word ‘narcoterrorism’ goes back now, a couple of decades. It was done under the Bush administration as well. But, doing all this, has been one of the aspects of the Trump administration in the Western Hemisphere, and it's in the US policy towards Latin America. And it's part and parcel of a return to Latin America under a security guise, right?&nbsp;</p><p>We are really seeing the United States ‘securitizing,’ I don't really like that verb, but, you know, making security the big deal of the US' approach towards Latin America. It is all about security. Which essentially means US policy towards Latin America right now is all about ‘big stick,’ right? It's about security. It's about, now we're, we're gonna be talking about it. It's about gunboat diplomacy. It's about wielding a big stick and there's not much carrot. It's all about, you know, ‘do this or else.’&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING HAMZA WALKER -<em> A powerful new art exhibit features pieces that are old. So old that many Americans during the 2020 racial justice uprising felt they had no place being revered in public spaces. More than </em><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/confederate-monuments/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>140 statues and monuments</u></em></a><em> to the Confederacy, and by extension its legacy of white supremacy, slavery, and racism, were toppled between 2015 and 2020. Hundreds more remain standing.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Now, a Los Angeles museum is displaying several of these toppled monuments, some still sporting the graffiti of rage, and one, chopped up and reassembled in a grotesque manner by acclaimed artist Kara Walker.</em></p><p><em>Hamza Walker is the director of </em><a href="https://the-brick.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>The Brick</em></a><em> and co-curator of the MONUMENTS exhibition, now on view at The Brick and at the Geffen Contemporary at MOCA. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the exhibit and what led to it.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, let's talk first about this whole controversy around these Confederate era… no, confederate monuments. I wanna clarify, they weren't created or built in during the actual Confederacy. They were built, I understand many of them, of course, they're varied and there's hundreds all over the country, but many of them came up after the Confederacy as a way to keep alive the legacy. And it took many decades then for there to be this national conversation around why we still have these monuments around the country. Is that relatively accurate?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Hamza Walker:</strong>&nbsp;Yes, yes. Yes. They went up I mean, part of the narrative is how did they have a journey, right? In the wake of the Civil War, how did these statues make the journey from the cemetery to public spaces? And how did the men that they celebrate and honor go from being traitors to the union to becoming heroes and paragons of virtue? So that's the kind of story of, or trajectory of these confederate monuments in many cases.&nbsp;</p><p>But the lion's share of them were built in the late 19th and the first quarter of the 20th century. So between, you know, you could say 1890, you know, 1880, 1980 to 1925, 1930.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING HAMZA WALKER -<em> A powerful new art exhibit features pieces that are old. So old that many Americans during the 2020 racial justice uprising felt they had no place being revered in public spaces. More than </em><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/confederate-monuments/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>140 statues and monuments</u></em></a><em> to the Confederacy, and by extension its legacy of white supremacy, slavery, and racism, were toppled between 2015 and 2020. Hundreds more remain standing.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Now, a Los Angeles museum is displaying several of these toppled monuments, some still sporting the graffiti of rage, and one, chopped up and reassembled in a grotesque manner by acclaimed artist Kara Walker.</em></p><p><em>Hamza Walker is the director of </em><a href="https://the-brick.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>The Brick</em></a><em> and co-curator of the MONUMENTS exhibition, now on view at The Brick and at the Geffen Contemporary at MOCA. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the exhibit and what led to it.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, let's talk first about this whole controversy around these Confederate era… no, confederate monuments. I wanna clarify, they weren't created or built in during the actual Confederacy. They were built, I understand many of them, of course, they're varied and there's hundreds all over the country, but many of them came up after the Confederacy as a way to keep alive the legacy. And it took many decades then for there to be this national conversation around why we still have these monuments around the country. Is that relatively accurate?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Hamza Walker:</strong>&nbsp;Yes, yes. Yes. They went up I mean, part of the narrative is how did they have a journey, right? In the wake of the Civil War, how did these statues make the journey from the cemetery to public spaces? And how did the men that they celebrate and honor go from being traitors to the union to becoming heroes and paragons of virtue? So that's the kind of story of, or trajectory of these confederate monuments in many cases.&nbsp;</p><p>But the lion's share of them were built in the late 19th and the first quarter of the 20th century. So between, you know, you could say 1890, you know, 1880, 1980 to 1925, 1930.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING FRANK TAMBORELLO - <em>Citing the federal government shutdown as an excuse, President Donald Trump is allowing the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, to expire. This means about 40 million low income Americans nationwide will lose access to food stamps in November.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Donald Trump’s Department of Agriculture is falsely claiming in a banner at the top of its </em><a href="https://www.fns.usda.gov/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>website</u></em></a><em>, “Senate Democrats have now voted 12 times to not fund the food stamp program, also known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Bottom line, the well has run dry.”&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Meanwhile, as states, counties, municipalities, and food pantries scramble to feed millions, advocates and activists declared Tuesday October 28 a </em><a href="https://democracyforward.org/updates/perryman-snap-statement/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>SNAP Day of Action.&nbsp;</u></em></a></p><p><em>Frank Tamborello is co-founder and executive director of </em><a href="https://www.hungeractionla.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Hunger Action Los Angeles</em></a><em>, whose mission to end hunger and promote healthy eating in Los Angeles County. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what's at stake as food stamps dry up.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;First, let's talk about where there is money. We have 40-42 , million Americans relying on food stamps, which on average works out to less than $200 worth of vouchers that they can redeem for food at grocery stores, sometimes farmer's markets, et cetera. And that is going to get cut off in November. The government is claiming there's no money, but there are emergency funds that are available and that have traditionally, during shutdowns, been mobilized to ensure that there is no cut in funding. What is happening this time around? Why are people gonna lose food stamps in November unless Trump takes action?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Frank Tamborello:</strong>&nbsp;So, as you mentioned there's a contingency fund. It's about $5 billion and a month of SNAP benefits for the country is about $9 billion. So, they could at least do a partial allotment for people.&nbsp;</p><p>And besides that, we all know that especially this president is very proud of his ability to take executive actions. And so, there are probably numerous other avenues that could be taken to avoid people going hungry. But basically, a political game of chicken is being played and Trump is betting that people will blame the Democrats for the shutdown.</p><p>And you pointed out the banner on the USDA website, which is a clear violation of the Hatch Act. In other words, you're not supposed to use your political office for grandstanding in a partisan way, and that's exactly what's happening. So, it's not giving the full story of what the government shutdown is about.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING FRANK TAMBORELLO - <em>Citing the federal government shutdown as an excuse, President Donald Trump is allowing the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, to expire. This means about 40 million low income Americans nationwide will lose access to food stamps in November.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Donald Trump’s Department of Agriculture is falsely claiming in a banner at the top of its </em><a href="https://www.fns.usda.gov/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>website</u></em></a><em>, “Senate Democrats have now voted 12 times to not fund the food stamp program, also known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Bottom line, the well has run dry.”&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Meanwhile, as states, counties, municipalities, and food pantries scramble to feed millions, advocates and activists declared Tuesday October 28 a </em><a href="https://democracyforward.org/updates/perryman-snap-statement/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>SNAP Day of Action.&nbsp;</u></em></a></p><p><em>Frank Tamborello is co-founder and executive director of </em><a href="https://www.hungeractionla.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Hunger Action Los Angeles</em></a><em>, whose mission to end hunger and promote healthy eating in Los Angeles County. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what's at stake as food stamps dry up.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;First, let's talk about where there is money. We have 40-42 , million Americans relying on food stamps, which on average works out to less than $200 worth of vouchers that they can redeem for food at grocery stores, sometimes farmer's markets, et cetera. And that is going to get cut off in November. The government is claiming there's no money, but there are emergency funds that are available and that have traditionally, during shutdowns, been mobilized to ensure that there is no cut in funding. What is happening this time around? Why are people gonna lose food stamps in November unless Trump takes action?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Frank Tamborello:</strong>&nbsp;So, as you mentioned there's a contingency fund. It's about $5 billion and a month of SNAP benefits for the country is about $9 billion. So, they could at least do a partial allotment for people.&nbsp;</p><p>And besides that, we all know that especially this president is very proud of his ability to take executive actions. And so, there are probably numerous other avenues that could be taken to avoid people going hungry. But basically, a political game of chicken is being played and Trump is betting that people will blame the Democrats for the shutdown.</p><p>And you pointed out the banner on the USDA website, which is a clear violation of the Hatch Act. In other words, you're not supposed to use your political office for grandstanding in a partisan way, and that's exactly what's happening. So, it's not giving the full story of what the government shutdown is about.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DEAN BAKER - <em>On October 28, a month into the federal government shutdown, the United States Senate </em><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/government-shutdown-latest-senate-republicans-vance/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>voted for the 13th time</u></em></a><em> on a funding bill to reopen the government. Senate Republicans needed five more Democrats Senators to join them in order to pass the resolution but the opposition party has held firm–for now.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Republican lawmakers and President Donald Trump want to </em><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/republicans-grapple-voter-frustration-rising-health-care-premiums-126894850?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>strip government subsidies</u></em></a><em> from health insurance premiums for plans obtained through the Affordable Care Act but Democrats are refusing. Meanwhile, in response to the deadlock, Americans enrolled under the ACA are already being notified of huge increases to their premiums, a real-time demonstration of the GOP’s desires.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Trump and the Republican Party currently have no plan to control rising healthcare costs and early on, pivoted to making wild and false claims about Democrats holding out to preserve insurance coverage for undocumented people.</em></p><p><a href="https://deanbaker22.substack.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Dean Baker</em></a><em> is a senior economist at the </em><a href="https://cepr.net/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Center for Economic and Policy Research </em></a><em>and author of Rigged: How Globalization and the Rules of the Modern Economy Were Structured to Make the Rich Richer. He recently wrote a </em><a href="https://cepr.net/publications/roadmap-to-the-shutdown/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>clear explanation</u></em></a><em> of the shutdown and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about it.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I think it's so important for people to really be clear because they're getting such false information from the government. For example, if you go to the USDA's own website right now, at the very top is a banner that says “Senate Democrats have now voted 12 times to not fund the food stamp program, also known as SNAP. Bottom line: The well has run dry.” I mean, that's just the USDA.&nbsp;</p><p>And of course, Republicans in the Senate are also making wild claims. They claim that health insurance premiums would rise no matter what.&nbsp;</p><p>So, let's talk about what's&nbsp;<em>really</em>&nbsp;going on. What is it that Republicans want to do? What are they holding out for?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dean Baker:</strong>&nbsp;Well, there are two things going on here. One is that they do, as you had mentioned earlier, they wanted to basically gut the subsidies in the Affordable Care Act. They aren't gonna eliminate them altogether 'cause there were subsidies that were put into the act when was first passed back in 2010.&nbsp;</p><p>The immediate issue are the expanded subsidies that were put in place under President Biden during the COVID period, which made it much more affordable, both for people at the low ends. You have a lot of people that, in states where they didn't expand Medicaid, where this allowed them to get coverage for free. And these are low-income people, say 130% of the poverty level. So even paying a hundred, $200 a month for insurance was a really big deal. That's what they faced before that. Those were part of the expanded subsidies, which the Republicans wanna eliminate.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DEAN BAKER - <em>On October 28, a month into the federal government shutdown, the United States Senate </em><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/government-shutdown-latest-senate-republicans-vance/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>voted for the 13th time</u></em></a><em> on a funding bill to reopen the government. Senate Republicans needed five more Democrats Senators to join them in order to pass the resolution but the opposition party has held firm–for now.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Republican lawmakers and President Donald Trump want to </em><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/republicans-grapple-voter-frustration-rising-health-care-premiums-126894850?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>strip government subsidies</u></em></a><em> from health insurance premiums for plans obtained through the Affordable Care Act but Democrats are refusing. Meanwhile, in response to the deadlock, Americans enrolled under the ACA are already being notified of huge increases to their premiums, a real-time demonstration of the GOP’s desires.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Trump and the Republican Party currently have no plan to control rising healthcare costs and early on, pivoted to making wild and false claims about Democrats holding out to preserve insurance coverage for undocumented people.</em></p><p><a href="https://deanbaker22.substack.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Dean Baker</em></a><em> is a senior economist at the </em><a href="https://cepr.net/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Center for Economic and Policy Research </em></a><em>and author of Rigged: How Globalization and the Rules of the Modern Economy Were Structured to Make the Rich Richer. He recently wrote a </em><a href="https://cepr.net/publications/roadmap-to-the-shutdown/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>clear explanation</u></em></a><em> of the shutdown and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about it.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I think it's so important for people to really be clear because they're getting such false information from the government. For example, if you go to the USDA's own website right now, at the very top is a banner that says “Senate Democrats have now voted 12 times to not fund the food stamp program, also known as SNAP. Bottom line: The well has run dry.” I mean, that's just the USDA.&nbsp;</p><p>And of course, Republicans in the Senate are also making wild claims. They claim that health insurance premiums would rise no matter what.&nbsp;</p><p>So, let's talk about what's&nbsp;<em>really</em>&nbsp;going on. What is it that Republicans want to do? What are they holding out for?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dean Baker:</strong>&nbsp;Well, there are two things going on here. One is that they do, as you had mentioned earlier, they wanted to basically gut the subsidies in the Affordable Care Act. They aren't gonna eliminate them altogether 'cause there were subsidies that were put into the act when was first passed back in 2010.&nbsp;</p><p>The immediate issue are the expanded subsidies that were put in place under President Biden during the COVID period, which made it much more affordable, both for people at the low ends. You have a lot of people that, in states where they didn't expand Medicaid, where this allowed them to get coverage for free. And these are low-income people, say 130% of the poverty level. So even paying a hundred, $200 a month for insurance was a really big deal. That's what they faced before that. Those were part of the expanded subsidies, which the Republicans wanna eliminate.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING AISHA COFFEY - Federal workers are in the midst of a second crisis. After being devastated by mass firings and furloughs from President Trump and Elon Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), the on-going government shutdown is now jeopardizing pay for those remaining on the payroll.&nbsp;</p><p>The federal government employs millions of workers whose jobs entail upholding government services, public safety, enforcing regulations, distributing benefits and more. Now, a new series of shorts called I Do Solemnly Swear, features the voices of government workers pushing back. The series airs on <strong>Free Speech TV on Tuesday October 28 at 5 pm Pacific, 8 pm Eastern.</strong></p><p>Aisha Coffey is a strategic communications consultant with over 15 years of experience at federal agencies, including the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the National Institutes of Health (NIH). She is the spokesperson and Communications Director for <a href="https://federalworkersagainstdoge.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">Federal Workers Against DOGE</a>, a grassroots organization representing more than 1,500 federal employees across over 50 agencies who are advocating for labor protections, effective government and the preservation of democracy.&nbsp;</p><p>Aisha Coffey spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the dire situation facing federal workers and how they are speaking out and rising up. </p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Before we get to the series of shorts that is gonna air on Free Speech TV called, “I Do Solemnly Swear,” let's talk about what workers have been going through, broadly speaking. As I said, millions of workers are employed, and of those, give us a sense of how many have either been fired or furloughed? What are the numbers we're talking about here of people who work for us, who are impacted negatively by the current administration?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Aisha Coffey:</strong>&nbsp;I gotta say that's a question we all would like to know the answer to. As you know, the administration came in with a bit of chaos, so we don't exactly have the real solid numbers. We've been unable to get those numbers from any agency even up until now.&nbsp;</p><p>We've had to piece together the numbers from what we hear from federal workers from different agencies and, and outside entities that may be trying to keep a tally. By count, right now, the estimate that is that we've lost close to 50,000.</p>
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<p>FEATURING AISHA COFFEY - Federal workers are in the midst of a second crisis. After being devastated by mass firings and furloughs from President Trump and Elon Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), the on-going government shutdown is now jeopardizing pay for those remaining on the payroll.&nbsp;</p><p>The federal government employs millions of workers whose jobs entail upholding government services, public safety, enforcing regulations, distributing benefits and more. Now, a new series of shorts called I Do Solemnly Swear, features the voices of government workers pushing back. The series airs on <strong>Free Speech TV on Tuesday October 28 at 5 pm Pacific, 8 pm Eastern.</strong></p><p>Aisha Coffey is a strategic communications consultant with over 15 years of experience at federal agencies, including the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the National Institutes of Health (NIH). She is the spokesperson and Communications Director for <a href="https://federalworkersagainstdoge.com/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">Federal Workers Against DOGE</a>, a grassroots organization representing more than 1,500 federal employees across over 50 agencies who are advocating for labor protections, effective government and the preservation of democracy.&nbsp;</p><p>Aisha Coffey spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the dire situation facing federal workers and how they are speaking out and rising up. </p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Before we get to the series of shorts that is gonna air on Free Speech TV called, “I Do Solemnly Swear,” let's talk about what workers have been going through, broadly speaking. As I said, millions of workers are employed, and of those, give us a sense of how many have either been fired or furloughed? What are the numbers we're talking about here of people who work for us, who are impacted negatively by the current administration?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Aisha Coffey:</strong>&nbsp;I gotta say that's a question we all would like to know the answer to. As you know, the administration came in with a bit of chaos, so we don't exactly have the real solid numbers. We've been unable to get those numbers from any agency even up until now.&nbsp;</p><p>We've had to piece together the numbers from what we hear from federal workers from different agencies and, and outside entities that may be trying to keep a tally. By count, right now, the estimate that is that we've lost close to 50,000.</p>
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<p>FEATURING LEONARDO MARTINEZ - On October 16, just before 8 am, Leonardo Martinez, a volunteer with the immigrant rights group VC Defensa, was observing ICE agents in Oxnard, California. It’s something he’d been doing for a while. But this time, ICE agents, who were driving in an unmarked SUV, decided to take a violent turn and rammed Martinez’s pickup truck.&nbsp;</p><p>Not only was Martinez injured during the incident and had to receive medical treatment, but taken into ICE custody and detained for a while at Metropolitan Detention Center in LA. Martinez is a US citizen. Now, he’s speaking out about his experience.&nbsp;</p><p>Leonardo Martinez, volunteer and lead organizer with <a href="https://vcdefensa.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">VC Defensa</a>, an immigrant liberation organization and rapid response network based in Ventura County, California, spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about his experience and how his group engages in community defense. </p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Welcome to the program, Leo.</p><p><strong>Leonardo Martinez:</strong>&nbsp;Thank you very much. It's an honor to be on the show. I've been a fan for a very long time. I Appreciate it.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Thank you for joining us. Tell me what it is you do before we get into what happened on October 16th. In fact, I'm speaking to you right now as you're sitting in what looks like a, a minivan and you're imagining in Oxnard, what is it that you have been doing in your capacity as a volunteer with VC Defensa?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Martinez:</strong>&nbsp;Well, one of the, one of the things out of the many things that we do is what everybody saw. The video is where we go patrolling it to keep our community safe.&nbsp;</p><p>But the truth is that the bulk of our time goes into what I'm doing right now, accompanying people to meetings, appointments that they have with immigration. We do a ton of family support. When somebody's detained, we put money on their books. We get our lawyers to support them and focus on getting them out on bail. We have taken kids to the border to reconnect with their family members. We have had to do a whole host of things, because rarely when somebody gets detained, is that the only problem that the family has to face? Right?&nbsp;</p><p>So, we have to deal with everything from car mechanical issues all the way over to taking kids to school and transporting people. There's older folks that we gotta take care of sometimes. So, we really try to do as much as we can to support the families, while at the same time, another huge portion of our responsibilities as an organization is doing a ton of… they're called “know your rights” meetings, I guess, in jest. But the reality of it is that we go so much deeper than that.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING LEONARDO MARTINEZ - On October 16, just before 8 am, Leonardo Martinez, a volunteer with the immigrant rights group VC Defensa, was observing ICE agents in Oxnard, California. It’s something he’d been doing for a while. But this time, ICE agents, who were driving in an unmarked SUV, decided to take a violent turn and rammed Martinez’s pickup truck.&nbsp;</p><p>Not only was Martinez injured during the incident and had to receive medical treatment, but taken into ICE custody and detained for a while at Metropolitan Detention Center in LA. Martinez is a US citizen. Now, he’s speaking out about his experience.&nbsp;</p><p>Leonardo Martinez, volunteer and lead organizer with <a href="https://vcdefensa.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">VC Defensa</a>, an immigrant liberation organization and rapid response network based in Ventura County, California, spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about his experience and how his group engages in community defense. </p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Welcome to the program, Leo.</p><p><strong>Leonardo Martinez:</strong>&nbsp;Thank you very much. It's an honor to be on the show. I've been a fan for a very long time. I Appreciate it.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Thank you for joining us. Tell me what it is you do before we get into what happened on October 16th. In fact, I'm speaking to you right now as you're sitting in what looks like a, a minivan and you're imagining in Oxnard, what is it that you have been doing in your capacity as a volunteer with VC Defensa?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Martinez:</strong>&nbsp;Well, one of the, one of the things out of the many things that we do is what everybody saw. The video is where we go patrolling it to keep our community safe.&nbsp;</p><p>But the truth is that the bulk of our time goes into what I'm doing right now, accompanying people to meetings, appointments that they have with immigration. We do a ton of family support. When somebody's detained, we put money on their books. We get our lawyers to support them and focus on getting them out on bail. We have taken kids to the border to reconnect with their family members. We have had to do a whole host of things, because rarely when somebody gets detained, is that the only problem that the family has to face? Right?&nbsp;</p><p>So, we have to deal with everything from car mechanical issues all the way over to taking kids to school and transporting people. There's older folks that we gotta take care of sometimes. So, we really try to do as much as we can to support the families, while at the same time, another huge portion of our responsibilities as an organization is doing a ton of… they're called “know your rights” meetings, I guess, in jest. But the reality of it is that we go so much deeper than that.&nbsp;</p>
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                    <title>What Did Attendees of Los Angeles’ No Kings Gathering Demand?</title>
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<p>FEATURING NO KINGS ATTENDEES, LOS ANGELES - Organizers of the October 18 No Kings rally expected <a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/10/19/nx-s1-5579042/no-kings-protests-takeaways?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">five million people to attend about 2,600 gatherings</a> across the United States in a show of opposition to President Donald Trump’s regime. </p><p>In Southern California, where this program is based, numerous local gatherings took place, and today as part of our on-going series, Rising Up in the Streets, I bring you a report from Hollywood and downtown LA where a cross section of attendees grappled with the state of the government and their vision for the future of the nation.</p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I'm Sonali Kolhatkar, reporting from the No Kings Rally in downtown Los Angeles. It's actually the tail end of the rally. And I was here among thousands of people at Gloria Molina Park right in front of Los Angeles City Hall, where a very, very diverse crowd of people was gathered, reflecting Los Angeles's demographics, but also an interesting political spectrum ranging from people who are aligned with a Democratic party all the way to folks who want a democratic socialist revolution, folks that were wearing kuffiyahs to express their solidarity with Palestine, as well as people who were expressing solidarity with protestors in Portland through large animal costumes, inflatable animal costumes.&nbsp;</p><p>And generally, there was an air of joy and also rage. And so here are some of the interviews that I gathered. I also went to Hollywood on the corner of Vermont and Hollywood where there was a gathering on a street corner, a very, very large gathering on a street corner with signs encouraging people to honk their horns. And there are, are some of the conversations that I had with people on the October 18th, No Kings Day.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kim:</strong>&nbsp;My name is Kim. I am from Hollywood. And the reason I'm here today is so many reasons. Where to start? The fact that, you know, we have a person in the White House who is a narcissist, a sexual predator, and he just wants power for himself.&nbsp;</p><p>He doesn't care about the American people. He talks about this being a “Hate the America” rally when he's the one that actually hates this country and he's trying to tear us all apart, tear down our infrastructure, our democracy, and everything that makes this country great.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING NO KINGS ATTENDEES, LOS ANGELES - Organizers of the October 18 No Kings rally expected <a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/10/19/nx-s1-5579042/no-kings-protests-takeaways?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">five million people to attend about 2,600 gatherings</a> across the United States in a show of opposition to President Donald Trump’s regime. </p><p>In Southern California, where this program is based, numerous local gatherings took place, and today as part of our on-going series, Rising Up in the Streets, I bring you a report from Hollywood and downtown LA where a cross section of attendees grappled with the state of the government and their vision for the future of the nation.</p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I'm Sonali Kolhatkar, reporting from the No Kings Rally in downtown Los Angeles. It's actually the tail end of the rally. And I was here among thousands of people at Gloria Molina Park right in front of Los Angeles City Hall, where a very, very diverse crowd of people was gathered, reflecting Los Angeles's demographics, but also an interesting political spectrum ranging from people who are aligned with a Democratic party all the way to folks who want a democratic socialist revolution, folks that were wearing kuffiyahs to express their solidarity with Palestine, as well as people who were expressing solidarity with protestors in Portland through large animal costumes, inflatable animal costumes.&nbsp;</p><p>And generally, there was an air of joy and also rage. And so here are some of the interviews that I gathered. I also went to Hollywood on the corner of Vermont and Hollywood where there was a gathering on a street corner, a very, very large gathering on a street corner with signs encouraging people to honk their horns. And there are, are some of the conversations that I had with people on the October 18th, No Kings Day.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kim:</strong>&nbsp;My name is Kim. I am from Hollywood. And the reason I'm here today is so many reasons. Where to start? The fact that, you know, we have a person in the White House who is a narcissist, a sexual predator, and he just wants power for himself.&nbsp;</p><p>He doesn't care about the American people. He talks about this being a “Hate the America” rally when he's the one that actually hates this country and he's trying to tear us all apart, tear down our infrastructure, our democracy, and everything that makes this country great.&nbsp;</p>
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                    <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2025 07:00:45 -0700
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<p>FEATURING GLO SAHAY - In June 2025, hundreds of thousands of people <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/14/no-kings-protest-trump-00406243?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">mobilized</a> in cities around the United States rejecting the idea of modern-day monarchy under the Trump administration. Now, on October 18th, in an event that will be televised on <a href="http://www.freespeech.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">Free Speech TV</a>, a second so-called “<a href="https://www.nokings.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">No Kings</a>” mobilization promises to be even more wide ranging than the first.&nbsp;</p><p>Glo Sahay is an experienced organizer and IT Professional who ten years ago campaigned for Bernie Sanders and also organized around the Flint water crisis. She founded Political Revolution when the Sanders’ campaign ended and helps to support progressive grassroots candidates nationwide. Her organization helps provide infrastructure support to <a href="https://www.fiftyfifty.one/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">50501</a>. Sahay spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the October 18th mobilization. </p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, I covered the No Kings Rally here in Southern California where I'm based on Los Angeles. And out of curiosity, I went to the No Kings website to see where the LA event would be happening on Saturday. And what I found was overwhelming, literally every city, every town in Southern California, no matter how big or small is having a No Kings mobilization. Some have multiple mobilizations. This definitely seems, at least here where I'm based, much bigger. Give me a sense of the scope of the second No Kings rally and how it compares to what we saw in June of this year.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Glo Sahay:</strong>&nbsp;Absolutely. So right now, we have over 2,500 events which is very nearly close to double of how many events we had on June 14th. In addition to that we have events in almost every single congressional county. There's only 15 in which we do not have events. So, and in terms of RSVPs we are receiving close to 40,000 RSVPs daily. So, this is going to be an extremely momentous event.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING OMAR ZAHZAH - <em>After two long and horrific years, a relentless Israeli bombing campaign centered on a genocidal project of erasing Palestinians in Gaza, has been put on hold. A </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/14/world/middleeast/gaza-talks-phase-two.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>ceasefire agreement</u></em></a><em> enabled the release of nearly 2,000 Palestinian hostages, in exchange for about 20 Israeli hostages–a mathematical ratio that starkly symbolizes the dehumanization of Palestinians.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>It’s not just physical attacks and erasure that Palestinians have been subject to, but, as Omar Zahzah suggests in a new book, “digital settler colonialism.”&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Zahzah is a writer, poet, organizer of Lebanese Palestinian descent, and Assistant Professor of Arab and Muslim Ethnicities and Diasporas (AMED) Studies at San Francisco State University. He is the author of </em><a href="https://www.sevenstories.com/books/4729-terms-of-servitude?srsltid=AfmBOop6SSuumN3g2rk9Y9SP0gBSFDT4BVl0fvvc5t9jRO0DcINeJ2my&ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Terms of Servitude: Zionism, Silicon Valley, and Digital Settler Colonialism in the Palestine Liberation Struggle</em></a><em>. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the ceasefire agreement and his new book. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT:</strong> </p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Before we talk about what's happening in your and what you write about, rather in your book, let's discuss the big news since late last week in what seems to have been a desperate bid to win the Nobel Peace Prize, President Donald Trump basically pushed Benjamin Netanyahu into doing what he and Joe Biden could have pushed him to do for two long years, which is to basically have a ceasefire.&nbsp;</p><p>And I'm wondering if you have any opinions on the way in which the ceasefire is being talked about in the media. It's being seen as this big diplomatic coup for Trump, and it is also being seen as the end of something really, really terrible and the beginning of something bright and beautiful and wonderful. How do you view it?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Omar Zahzah:</strong>&nbsp;That's… it's an important question and I think we need to sort of remind ourselves that what we've witnessed for the past two years is the problem of an unchecked colonial expansionist project being allowed to inflict its violence and devastation with total impunity.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, that essential formulation, I don't think is gonna drastically change. Now, I hope that a ceasefire would result in a paradigm shift, but you really cannot have a substantive paradigm shift unless you actually have international pressure being applied to the Israeli state, which, although we've seen, you know, Trump, and there's been a lot of reporting of his dissatisfaction, you know, his anger at Netanyahu, the kinds of international pressure that needed to be applied against Israel in light of what it has done, which is a genocide and only the most recent genocide in terms of the Palestinian context, is strikingly low.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING OMAR ZAHZAH - <em>After two long and horrific years, a relentless Israeli bombing campaign centered on a genocidal project of erasing Palestinians in Gaza, has been put on hold. A </em><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/14/world/middleeast/gaza-talks-phase-two.html?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>ceasefire agreement</u></em></a><em> enabled the release of nearly 2,000 Palestinian hostages, in exchange for about 20 Israeli hostages–a mathematical ratio that starkly symbolizes the dehumanization of Palestinians.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>It’s not just physical attacks and erasure that Palestinians have been subject to, but, as Omar Zahzah suggests in a new book, “digital settler colonialism.”&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Zahzah is a writer, poet, organizer of Lebanese Palestinian descent, and Assistant Professor of Arab and Muslim Ethnicities and Diasporas (AMED) Studies at San Francisco State University. He is the author of </em><a href="https://www.sevenstories.com/books/4729-terms-of-servitude?srsltid=AfmBOop6SSuumN3g2rk9Y9SP0gBSFDT4BVl0fvvc5t9jRO0DcINeJ2my&ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Terms of Servitude: Zionism, Silicon Valley, and Digital Settler Colonialism in the Palestine Liberation Struggle</em></a><em>. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the ceasefire agreement and his new book. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT:</strong> </p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Before we talk about what's happening in your and what you write about, rather in your book, let's discuss the big news since late last week in what seems to have been a desperate bid to win the Nobel Peace Prize, President Donald Trump basically pushed Benjamin Netanyahu into doing what he and Joe Biden could have pushed him to do for two long years, which is to basically have a ceasefire.&nbsp;</p><p>And I'm wondering if you have any opinions on the way in which the ceasefire is being talked about in the media. It's being seen as this big diplomatic coup for Trump, and it is also being seen as the end of something really, really terrible and the beginning of something bright and beautiful and wonderful. How do you view it?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Omar Zahzah:</strong>&nbsp;That's… it's an important question and I think we need to sort of remind ourselves that what we've witnessed for the past two years is the problem of an unchecked colonial expansionist project being allowed to inflict its violence and devastation with total impunity.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, that essential formulation, I don't think is gonna drastically change. Now, I hope that a ceasefire would result in a paradigm shift, but you really cannot have a substantive paradigm shift unless you actually have international pressure being applied to the Israeli state, which, although we've seen, you know, Trump, and there's been a lot of reporting of his dissatisfaction, you know, his anger at Netanyahu, the kinds of international pressure that needed to be applied against Israel in light of what it has done, which is a genocide and only the most recent genocide in terms of the Palestinian context, is strikingly low.&nbsp;</p>
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                    <description>In a new book, Art of Defiance: Protest Graphics and Poetry for Palestine, editor S. A. Bachman brings together verse in English and Arabic from the likes of Susan Abulhawa, Refaat Alareer, and Saul Williams. </description>
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<p>FEATURING S. A. BACHMAN AND BASMAN ALDIRAWI - <em>On this second anniversary of the Israeli genocide of Palestinians in Gaza, we’ll take a look at the cultural resistance, Palestinian and American. In a new book, </em><a href="https://www.sabachman.com/about-5?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Art of Defiance: Protest Graphics and Poetry for Palestine</em></a><em>, editor S. A. Bachman brings together verse in English and Arabic from the likes of Susan Abulhawa, Refaat Alareer, and Saul Williams. </em></p><p><em>The book, whose proceeds benefit the families of those poets who have been killed, as well as Palestinian aid and justice organizations, is a physical work and also an e-book. Its art is designed to be printed up as protest posters. </em></p><p><em>Sonali Kolhatkar spoke with S.A. Bachman, editor of Art of Defiance, and an artist, activist, and educator, and Basman Aldirawi, speaking from Cairo, Egypt. Aldirawi is a Palestinian physiotherapist, writer and poet from Gaza whose work is featured in Art of Defiance. He has contributed dozens of stories and poems to the online platform We Are Not Numbers and other outlets including ArabLit, Mondoweiss and Vivamost. He is also co-author of the book, Light in Gaza: Writings Born of Fire, and the Arabic poetry anthology; Gaza, the land of poetry.</em><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let me start with you, S. A. This very, very grim two-year anniversary is an opportunity for us to talk about not only what's happening in Gaza, but about the cultural resistance, artistic resistance to it. S. A., start with the description of your book, the Art of Resistance, how did you put this together? Who is involved? You have a collection of basically poetry and visuals, right?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>S. A. Bachman:</strong>&nbsp;Correct. And the book was initially inspired by two directors from the Freedom Theater, which is in the West Bank. And they once said that the third Intifada would be fought not just in the streets, but through theater, through music, through visual art and through poetry.&nbsp;</p><p>So, I felt like I had to use the skills that I have to do something, to push back, and I didn't feel that dissent was optional, it was compulsory. So, I began to reach out and start to talk to some poets, and one thing led to another, and each poet led me to another poet.&nbsp;</p><p>And I ended up with an incredible collection of both young poets from Gaza and then a handful of very well-known poets. And then that poetry is juxtaposed with protest posters that I've done since October 2023, as well as other kinds of documentation that are specific to this genocide.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING S. A. BACHMAN AND BASMAN ALDIRAWI - <em>On this second anniversary of the Israeli genocide of Palestinians in Gaza, we’ll take a look at the cultural resistance, Palestinian and American. In a new book, </em><a href="https://www.sabachman.com/about-5?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Art of Defiance: Protest Graphics and Poetry for Palestine</em></a><em>, editor S. A. Bachman brings together verse in English and Arabic from the likes of Susan Abulhawa, Refaat Alareer, and Saul Williams. </em></p><p><em>The book, whose proceeds benefit the families of those poets who have been killed, as well as Palestinian aid and justice organizations, is a physical work and also an e-book. Its art is designed to be printed up as protest posters. </em></p><p><em>Sonali Kolhatkar spoke with S.A. Bachman, editor of Art of Defiance, and an artist, activist, and educator, and Basman Aldirawi, speaking from Cairo, Egypt. Aldirawi is a Palestinian physiotherapist, writer and poet from Gaza whose work is featured in Art of Defiance. He has contributed dozens of stories and poems to the online platform We Are Not Numbers and other outlets including ArabLit, Mondoweiss and Vivamost. He is also co-author of the book, Light in Gaza: Writings Born of Fire, and the Arabic poetry anthology; Gaza, the land of poetry.</em><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let me start with you, S. A. This very, very grim two-year anniversary is an opportunity for us to talk about not only what's happening in Gaza, but about the cultural resistance, artistic resistance to it. S. A., start with the description of your book, the Art of Resistance, how did you put this together? Who is involved? You have a collection of basically poetry and visuals, right?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>S. A. Bachman:</strong>&nbsp;Correct. And the book was initially inspired by two directors from the Freedom Theater, which is in the West Bank. And they once said that the third Intifada would be fought not just in the streets, but through theater, through music, through visual art and through poetry.&nbsp;</p><p>So, I felt like I had to use the skills that I have to do something, to push back, and I didn't feel that dissent was optional, it was compulsory. So, I began to reach out and start to talk to some poets, and one thing led to another, and each poet led me to another poet.&nbsp;</p><p>And I ended up with an incredible collection of both young poets from Gaza and then a handful of very well-known poets. And then that poetry is juxtaposed with protest posters that I've done since October 2023, as well as other kinds of documentation that are specific to this genocide.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ILAN PAPPE - <em>Two years into Israel’s worst chapter of genocide in Gaza, the question arises, can the state of Israel simply continue acting in impunity unchallenged? Under the extremist leadership of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, what can Israel’s future be, and, by extension, the future of the Palestinian people?&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>In a powerful new book, historian Ilan Pappe imagines a more hopeful future, one that he hopes will come about via 8 “mini revolutions” that includes “Relocating the Right of Return of the Palestinian refugees to the center of the future vision.”</em></p><p><em>Ilan Pappe is a professor of history at the College of Social Sciences and International Studies at the University of Exeter in the UK and the director of the university’s European Centre for Palestine Studies. His books include The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ten Myths About Israel, and A History of Modern Palestine. He writes for the Guardian, the London Review of Books, and elsewhere. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar from Italy to discuss his latest book, </em><a href="https://www.beacon.org/Israel-on-the-Brink-P2220.aspx?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Israel on the Brink, And the Eight Revolutions that Could Lead to Decolonization and Coexistence.</em></a></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Two years into this genocide, and there seems no end in sight. Is this the breaking point for Israelis and Palestinians?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Ilan Pappe:</strong>&nbsp;I hope it is. I think unfortunately, we are not yet there at the breaking point. I think we should be talking about two different stages.&nbsp;</p><p>One that maybe is in the making, which is the establishment of a longer ceasefire that will bring some sort of end to the bombing, maybe to exchange of prisoners. That could happen within a few months, I hope, sooner rather than later, of course, especially for the sake of the people of Gaza, and which will distinguish this from a more significant change in the reality, which I'm afraid is not due very, very soon.&nbsp;</p><p>And, definitely the current efforts of the so-called peace mediation, including the, the Trump 21-point program are not really getting us there.&nbsp;</p><p>So, there is a difference between a wish for a tactical rest, if you want, in the genocide or break, and a more fundamental change that would prevent a different kind of genocide, an incremental one, ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and the continued aggressive Israeli policies, not only towards the Palestinians, but also towards its neighboring Arab countries.</p>
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<p>FEATURING ILAN PAPPE - <em>Two years into Israel’s worst chapter of genocide in Gaza, the question arises, can the state of Israel simply continue acting in impunity unchallenged? Under the extremist leadership of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, what can Israel’s future be, and, by extension, the future of the Palestinian people?&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>In a powerful new book, historian Ilan Pappe imagines a more hopeful future, one that he hopes will come about via 8 “mini revolutions” that includes “Relocating the Right of Return of the Palestinian refugees to the center of the future vision.”</em></p><p><em>Ilan Pappe is a professor of history at the College of Social Sciences and International Studies at the University of Exeter in the UK and the director of the university’s European Centre for Palestine Studies. His books include The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ten Myths About Israel, and A History of Modern Palestine. He writes for the Guardian, the London Review of Books, and elsewhere. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar from Italy to discuss his latest book, </em><a href="https://www.beacon.org/Israel-on-the-Brink-P2220.aspx?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Israel on the Brink, And the Eight Revolutions that Could Lead to Decolonization and Coexistence.</em></a></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Two years into this genocide, and there seems no end in sight. Is this the breaking point for Israelis and Palestinians?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Ilan Pappe:</strong>&nbsp;I hope it is. I think unfortunately, we are not yet there at the breaking point. I think we should be talking about two different stages.&nbsp;</p><p>One that maybe is in the making, which is the establishment of a longer ceasefire that will bring some sort of end to the bombing, maybe to exchange of prisoners. That could happen within a few months, I hope, sooner rather than later, of course, especially for the sake of the people of Gaza, and which will distinguish this from a more significant change in the reality, which I'm afraid is not due very, very soon.&nbsp;</p><p>And, definitely the current efforts of the so-called peace mediation, including the, the Trump 21-point program are not really getting us there.&nbsp;</p><p>So, there is a difference between a wish for a tactical rest, if you want, in the genocide or break, and a more fundamental change that would prevent a different kind of genocide, an incremental one, ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and the continued aggressive Israeli policies, not only towards the Palestinians, but also towards its neighboring Arab countries.</p>
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<p>FEATURING PLESTIA ALAQAD - <em>It's been two years since Israel began its latest and worst genocidal chapter in Gaza. On October 7, 2023, after a Hamas attack that left more than a thousand Israelis dead and hundreds captured, Israel launched a relentless, 2-year long attack that killed on the order of 70,000 Palestinians. That number, when accounting for lack of food and medical aid, is likely far higher. Among those Israel has targeted and killed have been countless journalists.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>In a new book by young Palestinian journalist Plestia Alaqad, we learn what it was like to see Gaza through her eyes. Alaqad covered the beginning of the genocide and watched her colleagues and fellow Palestinians being massacred before fleeing to Australia.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>“Plestia Alaqad became our eyes in Gaza and has forever taken a huge piece of our hearts. In this series of diary entries, she welcomes us to live through the Genocide again but, this time, with greater intimacy,” writes Palestinian American attorney and academic Noura Erekat.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Plestia Alaqad  has won international awards for her coverage of the genocide and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar from Lebanon about her new book, </em><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/plestia-alaqad/the-eyes-of-gaza/9780316597456/?lens=little-brown&ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>The Eyes of Gaza: A Diary of Resilience</em></a><em>.</em></p><p>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So your coverage of the first few months, a few weeks maybe of the genocide was so harrowing that I'm wondering if you can tell us, not necessarily what it was like there—people can read that—but what it felt like for you as a young person growing up in Gaza, having dreams of becoming all sorts of different things, and what led to you becoming this person through whose eyes we were able to see what was happening in Gaza. What was that transition like?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Plestia Alaqad:</strong>&nbsp;I actually reported in Gaza for 45 days, but people think I was there for months. And I sometimes feel like that I was there reporting for years because even though it's only 45 days, but it was so extreme and I saw things that I never expected to see. I never expected that we live in a world where a genocide is allowed. And what I can't even understand or imagine is that it's been two years of the genocide and it's still going on the.</p><p>Unfortunately Israel succeeded in isolating Gaza from the rest of the world. So, the hard part really is, is like as a person being born and raised Gaza my whole life, when you're outside of Gaza, you realize that things have different meanings than they do in Gaza. Meaning in Gaza, when you see a tent, it's always like a negative thing. It means displacement. Outside of Gaza, it means camping.&nbsp;</p><p>How in Gaza you're always afraid of looking at the sky of like, oh my God, is this bomb? Is this smoke? But outside of Gaza it's different. So that really is the hard part after surviving a genocide, just understanding and processing everything you went through and how your experience is basically different from the experience of the rest of the world and how your life in Gaza isn't normal.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING PLESTIA ALAQAD - <em>It's been two years since Israel began its latest and worst genocidal chapter in Gaza. On October 7, 2023, after a Hamas attack that left more than a thousand Israelis dead and hundreds captured, Israel launched a relentless, 2-year long attack that killed on the order of 70,000 Palestinians. That number, when accounting for lack of food and medical aid, is likely far higher. Among those Israel has targeted and killed have been countless journalists.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>In a new book by young Palestinian journalist Plestia Alaqad, we learn what it was like to see Gaza through her eyes. Alaqad covered the beginning of the genocide and watched her colleagues and fellow Palestinians being massacred before fleeing to Australia.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>“Plestia Alaqad became our eyes in Gaza and has forever taken a huge piece of our hearts. In this series of diary entries, she welcomes us to live through the Genocide again but, this time, with greater intimacy,” writes Palestinian American attorney and academic Noura Erekat.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Plestia Alaqad  has won international awards for her coverage of the genocide and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar from Lebanon about her new book, </em><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/plestia-alaqad/the-eyes-of-gaza/9780316597456/?lens=little-brown&ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>The Eyes of Gaza: A Diary of Resilience</em></a><em>.</em></p><p>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So your coverage of the first few months, a few weeks maybe of the genocide was so harrowing that I'm wondering if you can tell us, not necessarily what it was like there—people can read that—but what it felt like for you as a young person growing up in Gaza, having dreams of becoming all sorts of different things, and what led to you becoming this person through whose eyes we were able to see what was happening in Gaza. What was that transition like?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Plestia Alaqad:</strong>&nbsp;I actually reported in Gaza for 45 days, but people think I was there for months. And I sometimes feel like that I was there reporting for years because even though it's only 45 days, but it was so extreme and I saw things that I never expected to see. I never expected that we live in a world where a genocide is allowed. And what I can't even understand or imagine is that it's been two years of the genocide and it's still going on the.</p><p>Unfortunately Israel succeeded in isolating Gaza from the rest of the world. So, the hard part really is, is like as a person being born and raised Gaza my whole life, when you're outside of Gaza, you realize that things have different meanings than they do in Gaza. Meaning in Gaza, when you see a tent, it's always like a negative thing. It means displacement. Outside of Gaza, it means camping.&nbsp;</p><p>How in Gaza you're always afraid of looking at the sky of like, oh my God, is this bomb? Is this smoke? But outside of Gaza it's different. So that really is the hard part after surviving a genocide, just understanding and processing everything you went through and how your experience is basically different from the experience of the rest of the world and how your life in Gaza isn't normal.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING JONATHAN ROSENBLUM - <em>There was a time when socialists were so rare in elected office, most people could cite only Bernie Sanders and Eugene Debs as having power. Today, more people are proudly wearing the mantle of “socialist” as capitalism’s failures become ever-apparent. For that, we can thank not just the likes of Sanders,&nbsp; but <strong>Kshama Sawant</strong> who is arguably far bolder than the Vermont Senator.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>When Sawant, an Indian immigrant, burst into the local political scene in Seattle, running for a City Council on an overtly anticapitalist agenda, many people, including Jonathan Rosenblum, were skeptical. Jonathan has helped workers throughout North America organize, bargain, and strike in a wide range of industries—warehousing and logistics, higher education, healthcare, and public service. </em></p><p><em>During Kshama Sawant’s decade on the Seattle City Council, he worked on her council staff and as an election campaigner. He is the author of </em><a href="https://orbooks.com/catalog/we-re-coming-for-you-and-your-rotten-system/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>We're Coming for You and Your Rotten System: How Socialists Beat Amazon and Upended Big-City Politics</em></a><em> and spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the new book.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, I said that you were initially skeptical, and that's how you start your book. You were skeptical of Sawant because she showed up to an event, a rally for SeaTac airport workers, who, more than a decade ago were lobbying for pushing for a $15 an hour minimum wage. Lay out that scene for us where you first encountered Kshama Sawant and how she struck you, how her brand of politics struck you initially with a little fear, and then you came around.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Jonathan Rosenblum:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, This was my first encounter with, with Kshama and the organization that she had belonged to at the time, socialist Alternative. And they came down to SeaTac Washington, miles south of Seattle in 2013, where airport workers were fighting to get an initiative on the ballot there for a $15 minimum wage, which they were successful at doing, and they were successful in winning a few months later.&nbsp;</p><p>And, Kshama spoke at this public hearing, and you know, compared to the other speakers who are very modest and moderate in their tone, seeking to persuade a fairly conservative electorate in SeaTac to vote for this transformative wage increase for airport workers, Kshama held nothing back and talked about the maladies of capitalism and why we needed to fight not just the corporations, but the mainstream political parties, both the Republicans and the Democrats, who were holding workers back.&nbsp;</p><p>And I was really, frankly, a little bit askance at the sharpness of her tone. But then after the meeting, just talking to the airport workers who were there about who they liked hearing from at the hearing everyone said to a person we liked that Indian lady from Seattle. And I realized that Kshama had had tapped a core emotion, energy that workers had, that they'd been screwed, time and again by the system.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ALEX FERRER - As the cost of housing continues to be out of reach of many Americans, millions are burdened with rent and eviction-related debt that they cannot pay.&nbsp;</p><p>Now, the Debt Collective has organized a <a href="https://www.eqrdtu.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">rent debt strike</a> against Equity Residential, the fifth largest landlord in the nation and the largest in the city of Los Angeles, where tenants recently successfully pushed back against deceptive utility bills.</p><p>Alex Ferrer, an organizer with the <a href="https://debtcollective.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">Debt Collective</a>, working with tenants towards the abolition of their post eviction rental debt, spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the renters strike.</p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT:</strong> </p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;The Debt Collective often, for folks who are familiar with the organization, has been associated with college debt, with student debt. Tell me what the issue for “rent debt” is and why the organization has included or expanded its work to include rent-related debt.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Alex Ferrer:</strong>&nbsp;Totally. I think that's, that's our historic focus on student debt and medical debt and all other forms of burdensome debt, I think is actually really congruous with this issue of rental debt because it's another area in which a basic human necessity, that is housing, is being a place in which people are becoming deeply indebted because we're being denied the means to live without debt. So, the high cost of housing and the, the post eviction rent debt arrears are, I think, very similar to other arrears of focus for the Debt Collective. and we see these issues as totally congruous.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ALEX FERRER - As the cost of housing continues to be out of reach of many Americans, millions are burdened with rent and eviction-related debt that they cannot pay.&nbsp;</p><p>Now, the Debt Collective has organized a <a href="https://www.eqrdtu.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">rent debt strike</a> against Equity Residential, the fifth largest landlord in the nation and the largest in the city of Los Angeles, where tenants recently successfully pushed back against deceptive utility bills.</p><p>Alex Ferrer, an organizer with the <a href="https://debtcollective.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer">Debt Collective</a>, working with tenants towards the abolition of their post eviction rental debt, spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the renters strike.</p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT:</strong> </p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;The Debt Collective often, for folks who are familiar with the organization, has been associated with college debt, with student debt. Tell me what the issue for “rent debt” is and why the organization has included or expanded its work to include rent-related debt.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Alex Ferrer:</strong>&nbsp;Totally. I think that's, that's our historic focus on student debt and medical debt and all other forms of burdensome debt, I think is actually really congruous with this issue of rental debt because it's another area in which a basic human necessity, that is housing, is being a place in which people are becoming deeply indebted because we're being denied the means to live without debt. So, the high cost of housing and the, the post eviction rent debt arrears are, I think, very similar to other arrears of focus for the Debt Collective. and we see these issues as totally congruous.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING SIMONE PRICE - <em>California’s incarcerated firefighters may win a huge pay bump if Gov. Gavin Newsom signs a bill that’s just reached his desk. AB 247 would raise the minimum wage for this group of workers from below-minimum wage to $7.25 an hour.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>As global warming triggers fire seasons that are longer and deadlier than normal, California’s reliance on incarcerated firefighters grows. But they are often treated as dispensable.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Simone Price is the Director of Organizing at the </em><a href="https://www.ceoworks.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Center for Employment Opportunities</em></a><em>, where she oversees a program designed to center the voices of formerly incarcerated people at the local and federal level. She spoke </em>with<em> Sonali Kolhatkar about AB 247.</em></p><p><strong><em>NOTE: In an earlier version of this interview, Sonali erroneously cited the original proposed pay increase of $19 an hour.&nbsp;That amount was adjusted down to $7.25. </em></strong></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I think those people who may not live in fire zones or outside California may not really be aware to the extent that we as a state rely on incarcerated firefighters. I'm near Altadena. It was a big story in January of this year about how incarcerated firefighters made a huge difference to the ability to save property and lives.&nbsp;</p><p>Tell us how much the state is relying on, and increasingly so, on incarcerated firefighters.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Simone Price:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah of course, I mean this past January as Los Angeles experienced one of the most destructive wildfires, I think it came to the world's attention just how often the state is relying upon currently incarcerated people who are working on these fire crews.&nbsp;</p><p>But it's actually been a trend that's evolved and increased over time. And for the past several wildfire seasons, about a third of the emergency responses that were deployed to fires were currently incarcerated people. And this past January, those numbers were 40%. So, it's very often incarcerated folks who are working side by side with their Calfire counterparts, but who are currently serving a sentence and receiving not only far below minimum wage, but about $5 to $10 per day and as much as a dollar per hour in an emergency situation. So far, far below minimum wage.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING SIMONE PRICE - <em>California’s incarcerated firefighters may win a huge pay bump if Gov. Gavin Newsom signs a bill that’s just reached his desk. AB 247 would raise the minimum wage for this group of workers from below-minimum wage to $7.25 an hour.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>As global warming triggers fire seasons that are longer and deadlier than normal, California’s reliance on incarcerated firefighters grows. But they are often treated as dispensable.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Simone Price is the Director of Organizing at the </em><a href="https://www.ceoworks.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Center for Employment Opportunities</em></a><em>, where she oversees a program designed to center the voices of formerly incarcerated people at the local and federal level. She spoke </em>with<em> Sonali Kolhatkar about AB 247.</em></p><p><strong><em>NOTE: In an earlier version of this interview, Sonali erroneously cited the original proposed pay increase of $19 an hour.&nbsp;That amount was adjusted down to $7.25. </em></strong></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I think those people who may not live in fire zones or outside California may not really be aware to the extent that we as a state rely on incarcerated firefighters. I'm near Altadena. It was a big story in January of this year about how incarcerated firefighters made a huge difference to the ability to save property and lives.&nbsp;</p><p>Tell us how much the state is relying on, and increasingly so, on incarcerated firefighters.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Simone Price:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah of course, I mean this past January as Los Angeles experienced one of the most destructive wildfires, I think it came to the world's attention just how often the state is relying upon currently incarcerated people who are working on these fire crews.&nbsp;</p><p>But it's actually been a trend that's evolved and increased over time. And for the past several wildfire seasons, about a third of the emergency responses that were deployed to fires were currently incarcerated people. And this past January, those numbers were 40%. So, it's very often incarcerated folks who are working side by side with their Calfire counterparts, but who are currently serving a sentence and receiving not only far below minimum wage, but about $5 to $10 per day and as much as a dollar per hour in an emergency situation. So far, far below minimum wage.&nbsp;</p>
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                    <title>LA Incumbent Democrat Faces Progressive Challenger</title>
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                    <description>As a self-described “daughter of a deportee, raised by a single mom in and around Northeast LA,” Angela Gonzales-Torres is running for Congress on an abolitionist platform of people-first housing, guaranteed basic income, Medicare-for-all, Green New Deal, immigrant justice and more. </description>
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<p>FEATURING ANGELA GONZALES-TORRES - <em>Justice Democrats, the political organization that helped catapult Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Cori Bush, and other young progressives of color into Congressional seats, is backing a new candidate in Los Angeles: </em><a href="https://www.angela4congress.com/home?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Angela Gonzales-Torres</u></em></a><em> is challenging incumbent Jimmy Gomez for District 34.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>As a self-described “daughter of a deportee, raised by a single mom in and around Northeast LA,” Gonzales-Torres is running on an abolitionist platform of people-first housing, guaranteed basic income, Medicare-for-all, Green New Deal, immigrant justice and more.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Angela Gonzalez-Torres, Congressional candidate challenging California Congressman Jimmy Gomez to represent District 34 in Los Angeles. She is an anthropologist, former President of the Historic Highland Park Neighborhood Council, where she helped lead efforts to resist displacement, protect renters, and hold developers and city officials accountable. She has also served as an intern with the LA City Mayor's office and as a Metro Public Safety Advisory Committee member. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about her campaign. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Angela Gonzales-Torres:</strong>&nbsp;Oh my gosh, that was amazing to hear that. Yes, I'm only 30, but I feel like I've lived all these lives. Thank you for having me. Something You're most welcome.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;You're not very far from where I live in Pasadena. And this is a, an interesting time that we live in where we are seeing young people of color like yourself, people with immigrant backgrounds, at a time when anti-immigrant sentiment coming from the highest office is so virulent, so dangerous, and yet a lot of people are finding it in themselves to stand up.&nbsp;</p><p>So just tell me, first of all, why, what led to your decision? Is this something you've always pictured for yourself to someday be in Congress or was this something that just motivated you more recently? And if so, why?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Gonzales-Torres:</strong>&nbsp;That's, yeah, that's a really good place to start because I actually did not know who represented me really, on a congressional level until about two years ago, and now I'm running against him. So really anything is possible and certainly a better future for all of us.&nbsp;</p><p>But I'm really excited to and proud to be introducing myself as a new voice for California's 34th district. I am born and raised here. I graduated from our public schools here. I certainly did not move here to become a politician, nearly fully funded by corporate SuperPACs. And I'm just really honored that this is something that I get to do for myself, my family, my community, because we are really looking for hope.&nbsp;</p><p>And I'm just a daughter of this district. I'm also a daughter of a deportee, like you said. I have lived through my own father's deportation, was raised by a single mom. And I feel the urgency of this moment. And so I think this district, being the heart of Los Angeles really deserves a progressive leader who will actually stand with us and fight for us and not leave to Washington, DC and close the door behind him.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ANGELA GONZALES-TORRES - <em>Justice Democrats, the political organization that helped catapult Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Cori Bush, and other young progressives of color into Congressional seats, is backing a new candidate in Los Angeles: </em><a href="https://www.angela4congress.com/home?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Angela Gonzales-Torres</u></em></a><em> is challenging incumbent Jimmy Gomez for District 34.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>As a self-described “daughter of a deportee, raised by a single mom in and around Northeast LA,” Gonzales-Torres is running on an abolitionist platform of people-first housing, guaranteed basic income, Medicare-for-all, Green New Deal, immigrant justice and more.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Angela Gonzalez-Torres, Congressional candidate challenging California Congressman Jimmy Gomez to represent District 34 in Los Angeles. She is an anthropologist, former President of the Historic Highland Park Neighborhood Council, where she helped lead efforts to resist displacement, protect renters, and hold developers and city officials accountable. She has also served as an intern with the LA City Mayor's office and as a Metro Public Safety Advisory Committee member. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about her campaign. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Angela Gonzales-Torres:</strong>&nbsp;Oh my gosh, that was amazing to hear that. Yes, I'm only 30, but I feel like I've lived all these lives. Thank you for having me. Something You're most welcome.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;You're not very far from where I live in Pasadena. And this is a, an interesting time that we live in where we are seeing young people of color like yourself, people with immigrant backgrounds, at a time when anti-immigrant sentiment coming from the highest office is so virulent, so dangerous, and yet a lot of people are finding it in themselves to stand up.&nbsp;</p><p>So just tell me, first of all, why, what led to your decision? Is this something you've always pictured for yourself to someday be in Congress or was this something that just motivated you more recently? And if so, why?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Gonzales-Torres:</strong>&nbsp;That's, yeah, that's a really good place to start because I actually did not know who represented me really, on a congressional level until about two years ago, and now I'm running against him. So really anything is possible and certainly a better future for all of us.&nbsp;</p><p>But I'm really excited to and proud to be introducing myself as a new voice for California's 34th district. I am born and raised here. I graduated from our public schools here. I certainly did not move here to become a politician, nearly fully funded by corporate SuperPACs. And I'm just really honored that this is something that I get to do for myself, my family, my community, because we are really looking for hope.&nbsp;</p><p>And I'm just a daughter of this district. I'm also a daughter of a deportee, like you said. I have lived through my own father's deportation, was raised by a single mom. And I feel the urgency of this moment. And so I think this district, being the heart of Los Angeles really deserves a progressive leader who will actually stand with us and fight for us and not leave to Washington, DC and close the door behind him.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ANDREA SERRANO - <em>The state of New Mexico just adopted a universal free childcare program, becoming the first state in the nation to do so.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>For decades now, the cost of childcare as a fraction of people’s wages has continued to increase, leading to more women dropping out of the workforce and people who want to have children, choosing not to in order to make ends meet. At the same time, childcare provider wages dropped to among the lowest in the nation.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Progressives have been calling on government to step in and make free, publicly funded childcare available to all parents for years and were told such a thing was simply untenable. So, how did New Mexico make it happen?</em></p><p><em>Andrea Serrano is&nbsp; a life long New Mexican who has worked in social justice and advocacy for over 25 years. She began working at </em><a href="https://olenm.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>OLÉ</em></a><em> in 2012 as a community organizer and became executive director in 2017, leading the organization’s electoral and political organizing. Andrea is also co-chair of the Working Families Party National Committee.&nbsp;She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the movement that led to NM's childcare success story.</em></p><div class="kg-card kg-cta-card kg-cta-bg-grey kg-cta-immersive  kg-cta-has-img  kg-cta-centered" data-layout="immersive">
            
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        </div><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, I understand that the news and the announcement was around New Mexico making childcare freely available to people regardless of income, meaning for everyone in New Mexico, but that is not something that came out of nowhere, right? It's been building for a few years and state government has been making the net wider and wider for people to the point now where basically anybody who is a parent in New Mexico can have free childcare provided by the government. Is that accurate?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Andrea Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;That's that is accurate. There are no income requirements for childcare assistance in the state of New Mexico, effectively creating universal childcare.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So take us through the steps of how it happened. you know, we can go back to 2022. You can go back even further than that. How did it all begin? It started out with New Mexico basically being one of the worst, if not the worst states in the nation when it came to childcare, right?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;Yes, for years New Mexico teetered between 48th, 49th and 50th in the state for child wellbeing. And in 2010, the idea to offer universal childcare came out of advocates including OLÉ, who, you know, really started to look at the state's funds come that come from oil and gas production.&nbsp;</p><figure class="kg-card kg-embed-card kg-card-hascaption"><iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/1121278597?h=27db6a324d&amp;app_id=122963" width="426" height="240" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" title="How Grassroots Organizing in New Mexico Delivered Free Universal Childcare"></iframe><figcaption><p><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">GUEST: </em></i><i><b><strong class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Andrea Serrano</strong></b></i><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">, Executive Director of OLÉ in New Mexico, Co-Chair of Working Families Party National Committee</em></i></p></figcaption></figure><p>And so, you know, part of the Permian Basin sits in New Mexico. We're one of the largest oil and gas producers in the country. and we have a land grant permanent fund. It's royalties that oil and gas pays to the state of New Mexico. And it goes into this fund that pays for education. It pays for some of the state institutions, you know, state hospitals, state universities.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, the idea was to increase the payout for education by 1% so that it can cover early childhood education. The way to do that in New Mexico is through constitutional amendment. And a constitutional amendment can go before voters only if the legislature passes it. And for 10 years, the legislature blocked the constitutional amendment from going before voters.&nbsp;</p><p>And, you know, I think it was a combination of organizing as well as political organizing, getting some lawmakers out of office and replacing them with lawmakers who are more values-aligned. And finally, in 2020, actually, I'm sorry, in 2021 the question was approved to go onto the ballot. It went onto the ballot in 2022, and it passed with 70% of the vote.&nbsp;</p><p>And in a state like New Mexico that has a mix of ideologies, and it's a spectrum of party affiliation, but it's also, you know, shades of blue, shades of red and everything in between in New Mexico. And so to, to get 70% of the vote was huge.&nbsp;</p><p>And so it went before voters, they approved it because they saw the value. And three years later, we have universal childcare for all families in New Mexico.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Right. I understand. In 2020, there was a increase in childcare provided by the government for people making something like 400% of the poverty rate. Yes. And then of course the governor just signed into law that it's now universal.&nbsp;</p><p>Now, how important is this, not just for families, but for people who work in the childcare industry? I mean, generally speaking, this is a women-dominated field and it's a small business field. Childcare isn't the kind of thing that you have mass big corporations, they're basically small home-based businesses, family-run businesses, and just, you know, small, in general small businesses. Right? So explain the ripple effect that it's going to have and has already been having in the economy of New Mexico.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;Well, I think you said it perfectly. So, these are businesses that are dominated by women in New Mexico, women of color, women from immigrant communities who are early educators.&nbsp;</p><p>It's really important to note that these are the first teachers outside of the family that children have. And so, the part of the announcement that's really exciting on top of families being able to access childcare and early education is that now there are incentives for center owners to receive a higher payout from the state that if they are paying or educators between $18 and $21 an hour, which is a huge bump, then you know, they will actually, there's incentives from the state for that.&nbsp;</p><p>There's actually also childcare deserts in New Mexico. And so, the state also wants to help build up childcare centers where there are none, especially in rural New Mexico.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, it's really important to keep that in mind because the reality is, in women-owned businesses, in these small businesses, we don't want corporations taking over childcare. We don't want venture capitalists taking over childcare. We want these to remain centers that are small businesses. And so the fact that the state is also seeing that it isn't just the childcare that matters, it's also how are we paying our educators?&nbsp;</p><p>And we still wanna see increases for early educators based on experience, based on, you know, the years that they've been in the field, if they've attained licenses and education. And so, it's really, it's exciting because it's a really holistic approach. It isn't just looking at the family, it's also looking at, you know, the function of the actual small business.&nbsp;</p><p>And with universal childcare, we're gonna see families saving, you know, on average about $12,000 a year. That is huge. That is huge.&nbsp;</p><p>There is no reason why families should be having to choose between paying the rent or paying their mortgage and paying for childcare. There's no reason why families should have to make that painful decision of, you know, being able to keep the lights on or being able to send their children to safe, quality early education. Now, they don't have to make that choice, right?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;And the reason why we've had this bizarre conundrum, that childcare costs are going up while wages are untenable for people providing childcare, is simply because overall wages are suppressed. And so fewer and fewer people can afford things, let alone childcare. And so we, it really needed, it's the kind of place that really needed government intervention.&nbsp;</p><p>And certainly we have public school that's provided universally K through 12. But what about before that K? Pre-kindergarten there has not been universal availability of government provided care for children, right? There's been patchwork piecemeal income-based, tax credits-based help, but it's either inaccessible or doesn't cover enough. And then there's always folks who make just slightly too much money, but not enough to actually pay, you know for privately held childcare. So all of these things have put a squeeze on people.&nbsp;</p><p>Let's talk about what it took to make it happen, Andrea. We've been told over and over again that this is the kind of thing that's untenable. But you are someone who has a national view as well as your co-chair of the Working Families Party National Committee. We are seeing Zohran Mamdani in New York saying that he wants to provide free childcare in the city, and he's being dismissed as somebody with a pipe dream, a socialist. But New Mexico did it, right? So reflect on that for us.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;You know, it, it doesn't happen overnight. And every state is different. Every city is different. Not every state has a land grant permanent fund the way New Mexico does. But the reality is that we, we can do it actually. We can you know, when, when corporations are paying their fair shares in taxes, we have a more robust economy. When we are cutting services to give billionaires tax breaks, then no, we can't pay for these things. And so it's the choices that we make. And so, keeping people in poverty is a policy choice.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, what it took to get here was an in incredible amount of organizing. When, when this fight first started in 2010, not a lot of lawmakers really understood what organizers were talking about. There were just a handful. And over years, it became a litmus test. If you were not with wanting early-ed for all, then you weren't necessarily a lawmaker who was in touch with community.&nbsp;</p><p>The community calls for early childhood education to be accessible for all grew louder and louder. And that came from organizing.&nbsp;</p><p>It is so important to note that it also came from a coalition. This was a coalition effort. It wasn't one organization, it wasn't one governor, it wasn't one legislature. It was a coalition of organizations, of lawmakers and the governor.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;And I'm so glad you brought that up because Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham seems to be getting a lot of credit for this, her faces on all of the newspapers and news coverage. But you're right, there's always a movement in the grassroots forcing it to happen from the bottom up because that's how change happens.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. And, and the reality is, you know, I think having a governor who, who did push and who was aligned with us on this is part of what makes it happen and makes it possible. And like I said, there were lawmakers who year after year blocked us from moving forward, blocked the constitutional amendment from getting a fair hearing so that it could go before voters. And eventually they were voted out.&nbsp;</p><p>And that's what's so important about organizing is that there's the community organizing, there's the understanding of policy, and then there's political organizing. And that takes years. And the families who had children who started this fight, by the time we passed the constitutional amendment, those kids were in high school. And so, it was a long road.&nbsp;</p><p>And, and we are really glad that the governor was with us on this. And we are really glad when she made the announcement. And it also was the culmination of years of organizing and of conversations of, you know, we're one of a handful of states who has a cabinet level secretary dedicated to early childhood education.&nbsp;</p><p>And so having a governor, having a legislature that's aligned with us is key. It matters.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, when you see other cities and other states wanting to tackle this as well, it might seem ridiculous at first. It might sound to some people, that it isn't possible. And it is, it absolutely is. It takes years and there's a tenacity that has to come with it as well. But it also is about how are you creating the issue environment and how are you electing the folks who are going to make it happen?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Finally, let's talk about funding, because of course, that is where the opposition generally comes in. You mentioned that, you know, this oil and gas funded pot of money that New Mexico has that, you know, was available.&nbsp;</p><p>What are the ways in which other states can make that case as well? Because we seem to find money for all sorts of things when we want to—more policing, et cetera. you know, there are some states that have revenues from cannabis sales. California has a surplus right now. There are states that have money, even if they don't have a specific pot of funding that's overflowing because of one resource.&nbsp;</p><p>What advice could you give to organizers in other states that face that opposition, “There's just not enough money for free childcare.”&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;I think it's really important to have a variety of people in a coalition. You need community organizers. You also need people who understand tax policy. You under, you need people who understand economic policy and you need to look at state revenues and what is the revenue that exists? And if the revenue doesn't exist, how can the revenue be generated?&nbsp;</p><p>You know under the Biden administration, there were $400 billion earmarked for early childhood education in the Build Back Better budget. And it was stripped out by Senator Manchin and Senator Sinema. They couldn't pass the big…</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Right wing democratic senators. Right?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;Right. Very, very much not aligned with the party that they claimed. And what was unfortunate about that was that $400 billion would've set up the country to do what New Mexico is doing.&nbsp;</p><p>And, and now we are in an administration where that isn't even in the realm of possibility. And so, I think it, it really is up to each state to really think through what are those revenue decisions that we make? You said it perfectly. There's always money to be found when, when there's the will to do it. And that will has to come from the ground up. It has to come from organizing.&nbsp;</p><p>I think what makes this win so exciting for us, it isn't just the fact that we have universal childcare. Obviously, that's the center of this. But this is something that has come from community and it's come from early educators.</p><p>At OLÉ, our members are early educators, many of whom are immigrant women, many of whom, or most of whom are women of color, who have gone through so many meetings and have testified in state legislature, and who have pushed and worked and pushed and advocated to make this happen.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, I really, with every fiber of my being, believe that organizing works. And it might take a long time, it may take 15 years, but I do believe that organizing works and, and until there's a political will on the federal government side, I think that states have to take this on.&nbsp;</p><p>But it truly has to be one, a coalition effort. Two, it has to be organizing. And three, there has to be some sort of political strategy to ensure that the people who are holding the purse are aligned with community.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I so appreciate you laying this all out for us. Andrea. Thank you so much for joining us. Really appreciate it.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;Thank you for having me.&nbsp;<br></p> ]]>
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<p>FEATURING ANDREA SERRANO - <em>The state of New Mexico just adopted a universal free childcare program, becoming the first state in the nation to do so.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>For decades now, the cost of childcare as a fraction of people’s wages has continued to increase, leading to more women dropping out of the workforce and people who want to have children, choosing not to in order to make ends meet. At the same time, childcare provider wages dropped to among the lowest in the nation.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Progressives have been calling on government to step in and make free, publicly funded childcare available to all parents for years and were told such a thing was simply untenable. So, how did New Mexico make it happen?</em></p><p><em>Andrea Serrano is&nbsp; a life long New Mexican who has worked in social justice and advocacy for over 25 years. She began working at </em><a href="https://olenm.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>OLÉ</em></a><em> in 2012 as a community organizer and became executive director in 2017, leading the organization’s electoral and political organizing. Andrea is also co-chair of the Working Families Party National Committee.&nbsp;She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the movement that led to NM's childcare success story.</em></p><div class="kg-card kg-cta-card kg-cta-bg-grey kg-cta-immersive  kg-cta-has-img  kg-cta-centered" data-layout="immersive">
            
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        </div><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, I understand that the news and the announcement was around New Mexico making childcare freely available to people regardless of income, meaning for everyone in New Mexico, but that is not something that came out of nowhere, right? It's been building for a few years and state government has been making the net wider and wider for people to the point now where basically anybody who is a parent in New Mexico can have free childcare provided by the government. Is that accurate?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Andrea Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;That's that is accurate. There are no income requirements for childcare assistance in the state of New Mexico, effectively creating universal childcare.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So take us through the steps of how it happened. you know, we can go back to 2022. You can go back even further than that. How did it all begin? It started out with New Mexico basically being one of the worst, if not the worst states in the nation when it came to childcare, right?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;Yes, for years New Mexico teetered between 48th, 49th and 50th in the state for child wellbeing. And in 2010, the idea to offer universal childcare came out of advocates including OLÉ, who, you know, really started to look at the state's funds come that come from oil and gas production.&nbsp;</p><figure class="kg-card kg-embed-card kg-card-hascaption"><iframe src="https://player.vimeo.com/video/1121278597?h=27db6a324d&amp;app_id=122963" width="426" height="240" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" title="How Grassroots Organizing in New Mexico Delivered Free Universal Childcare"></iframe><figcaption><p><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">GUEST: </em></i><i><b><strong class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">Andrea Serrano</strong></b></i><i><em class="italic" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">, Executive Director of OLÉ in New Mexico, Co-Chair of Working Families Party National Committee</em></i></p></figcaption></figure><p>And so, you know, part of the Permian Basin sits in New Mexico. We're one of the largest oil and gas producers in the country. and we have a land grant permanent fund. It's royalties that oil and gas pays to the state of New Mexico. And it goes into this fund that pays for education. It pays for some of the state institutions, you know, state hospitals, state universities.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, the idea was to increase the payout for education by 1% so that it can cover early childhood education. The way to do that in New Mexico is through constitutional amendment. And a constitutional amendment can go before voters only if the legislature passes it. And for 10 years, the legislature blocked the constitutional amendment from going before voters.&nbsp;</p><p>And, you know, I think it was a combination of organizing as well as political organizing, getting some lawmakers out of office and replacing them with lawmakers who are more values-aligned. And finally, in 2020, actually, I'm sorry, in 2021 the question was approved to go onto the ballot. It went onto the ballot in 2022, and it passed with 70% of the vote.&nbsp;</p><p>And in a state like New Mexico that has a mix of ideologies, and it's a spectrum of party affiliation, but it's also, you know, shades of blue, shades of red and everything in between in New Mexico. And so to, to get 70% of the vote was huge.&nbsp;</p><p>And so it went before voters, they approved it because they saw the value. And three years later, we have universal childcare for all families in New Mexico.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Right. I understand. In 2020, there was a increase in childcare provided by the government for people making something like 400% of the poverty rate. Yes. And then of course the governor just signed into law that it's now universal.&nbsp;</p><p>Now, how important is this, not just for families, but for people who work in the childcare industry? I mean, generally speaking, this is a women-dominated field and it's a small business field. Childcare isn't the kind of thing that you have mass big corporations, they're basically small home-based businesses, family-run businesses, and just, you know, small, in general small businesses. Right? So explain the ripple effect that it's going to have and has already been having in the economy of New Mexico.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;Well, I think you said it perfectly. So, these are businesses that are dominated by women in New Mexico, women of color, women from immigrant communities who are early educators.&nbsp;</p><p>It's really important to note that these are the first teachers outside of the family that children have. And so, the part of the announcement that's really exciting on top of families being able to access childcare and early education is that now there are incentives for center owners to receive a higher payout from the state that if they are paying or educators between $18 and $21 an hour, which is a huge bump, then you know, they will actually, there's incentives from the state for that.&nbsp;</p><p>There's actually also childcare deserts in New Mexico. And so, the state also wants to help build up childcare centers where there are none, especially in rural New Mexico.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, it's really important to keep that in mind because the reality is, in women-owned businesses, in these small businesses, we don't want corporations taking over childcare. We don't want venture capitalists taking over childcare. We want these to remain centers that are small businesses. And so the fact that the state is also seeing that it isn't just the childcare that matters, it's also how are we paying our educators?&nbsp;</p><p>And we still wanna see increases for early educators based on experience, based on, you know, the years that they've been in the field, if they've attained licenses and education. And so, it's really, it's exciting because it's a really holistic approach. It isn't just looking at the family, it's also looking at, you know, the function of the actual small business.&nbsp;</p><p>And with universal childcare, we're gonna see families saving, you know, on average about $12,000 a year. That is huge. That is huge.&nbsp;</p><p>There is no reason why families should be having to choose between paying the rent or paying their mortgage and paying for childcare. There's no reason why families should have to make that painful decision of, you know, being able to keep the lights on or being able to send their children to safe, quality early education. Now, they don't have to make that choice, right?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;And the reason why we've had this bizarre conundrum, that childcare costs are going up while wages are untenable for people providing childcare, is simply because overall wages are suppressed. And so fewer and fewer people can afford things, let alone childcare. And so we, it really needed, it's the kind of place that really needed government intervention.&nbsp;</p><p>And certainly we have public school that's provided universally K through 12. But what about before that K? Pre-kindergarten there has not been universal availability of government provided care for children, right? There's been patchwork piecemeal income-based, tax credits-based help, but it's either inaccessible or doesn't cover enough. And then there's always folks who make just slightly too much money, but not enough to actually pay, you know for privately held childcare. So all of these things have put a squeeze on people.&nbsp;</p><p>Let's talk about what it took to make it happen, Andrea. We've been told over and over again that this is the kind of thing that's untenable. But you are someone who has a national view as well as your co-chair of the Working Families Party National Committee. We are seeing Zohran Mamdani in New York saying that he wants to provide free childcare in the city, and he's being dismissed as somebody with a pipe dream, a socialist. But New Mexico did it, right? So reflect on that for us.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;You know, it, it doesn't happen overnight. And every state is different. Every city is different. Not every state has a land grant permanent fund the way New Mexico does. But the reality is that we, we can do it actually. We can you know, when, when corporations are paying their fair shares in taxes, we have a more robust economy. When we are cutting services to give billionaires tax breaks, then no, we can't pay for these things. And so it's the choices that we make. And so, keeping people in poverty is a policy choice.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, what it took to get here was an in incredible amount of organizing. When, when this fight first started in 2010, not a lot of lawmakers really understood what organizers were talking about. There were just a handful. And over years, it became a litmus test. If you were not with wanting early-ed for all, then you weren't necessarily a lawmaker who was in touch with community.&nbsp;</p><p>The community calls for early childhood education to be accessible for all grew louder and louder. And that came from organizing.&nbsp;</p><p>It is so important to note that it also came from a coalition. This was a coalition effort. It wasn't one organization, it wasn't one governor, it wasn't one legislature. It was a coalition of organizations, of lawmakers and the governor.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;And I'm so glad you brought that up because Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham seems to be getting a lot of credit for this, her faces on all of the newspapers and news coverage. But you're right, there's always a movement in the grassroots forcing it to happen from the bottom up because that's how change happens.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah. And, and the reality is, you know, I think having a governor who, who did push and who was aligned with us on this is part of what makes it happen and makes it possible. And like I said, there were lawmakers who year after year blocked us from moving forward, blocked the constitutional amendment from getting a fair hearing so that it could go before voters. And eventually they were voted out.&nbsp;</p><p>And that's what's so important about organizing is that there's the community organizing, there's the understanding of policy, and then there's political organizing. And that takes years. And the families who had children who started this fight, by the time we passed the constitutional amendment, those kids were in high school. And so, it was a long road.&nbsp;</p><p>And, and we are really glad that the governor was with us on this. And we are really glad when she made the announcement. And it also was the culmination of years of organizing and of conversations of, you know, we're one of a handful of states who has a cabinet level secretary dedicated to early childhood education.&nbsp;</p><p>And so having a governor, having a legislature that's aligned with us is key. It matters.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, when you see other cities and other states wanting to tackle this as well, it might seem ridiculous at first. It might sound to some people, that it isn't possible. And it is, it absolutely is. It takes years and there's a tenacity that has to come with it as well. But it also is about how are you creating the issue environment and how are you electing the folks who are going to make it happen?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Finally, let's talk about funding, because of course, that is where the opposition generally comes in. You mentioned that, you know, this oil and gas funded pot of money that New Mexico has that, you know, was available.&nbsp;</p><p>What are the ways in which other states can make that case as well? Because we seem to find money for all sorts of things when we want to—more policing, et cetera. you know, there are some states that have revenues from cannabis sales. California has a surplus right now. There are states that have money, even if they don't have a specific pot of funding that's overflowing because of one resource.&nbsp;</p><p>What advice could you give to organizers in other states that face that opposition, “There's just not enough money for free childcare.”&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;I think it's really important to have a variety of people in a coalition. You need community organizers. You also need people who understand tax policy. You under, you need people who understand economic policy and you need to look at state revenues and what is the revenue that exists? And if the revenue doesn't exist, how can the revenue be generated?&nbsp;</p><p>You know under the Biden administration, there were $400 billion earmarked for early childhood education in the Build Back Better budget. And it was stripped out by Senator Manchin and Senator Sinema. They couldn't pass the big…</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Right wing democratic senators. Right?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;Right. Very, very much not aligned with the party that they claimed. And what was unfortunate about that was that $400 billion would've set up the country to do what New Mexico is doing.&nbsp;</p><p>And, and now we are in an administration where that isn't even in the realm of possibility. And so, I think it, it really is up to each state to really think through what are those revenue decisions that we make? You said it perfectly. There's always money to be found when, when there's the will to do it. And that will has to come from the ground up. It has to come from organizing.&nbsp;</p><p>I think what makes this win so exciting for us, it isn't just the fact that we have universal childcare. Obviously, that's the center of this. But this is something that has come from community and it's come from early educators.</p><p>At OLÉ, our members are early educators, many of whom are immigrant women, many of whom, or most of whom are women of color, who have gone through so many meetings and have testified in state legislature, and who have pushed and worked and pushed and advocated to make this happen.&nbsp;</p><p>And so, I really, with every fiber of my being, believe that organizing works. And it might take a long time, it may take 15 years, but I do believe that organizing works and, and until there's a political will on the federal government side, I think that states have to take this on.&nbsp;</p><p>But it truly has to be one, a coalition effort. Two, it has to be organizing. And three, there has to be some sort of political strategy to ensure that the people who are holding the purse are aligned with community.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I so appreciate you laying this all out for us. Andrea. Thank you so much for joining us. Really appreciate it.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Serrano:</strong>&nbsp;Thank you for having me.&nbsp;<br></p> ]]>
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<p>FEATURING NICO UDU GAMA - <em>A series of climate justice actions around the world this month, seeks to “Draw the Line” on numerous interconnected issues plaguing people and the planet. Organized by </em><a href="http://350.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>350.org</u></em></a><em> and other groups, Draw the Line addresses “injustice, pollution, and violence, and for a future built on clean energy, and fairness.” In the US, the main action takes place in New York on September 20th under the banner of “Make Billionaires Pay”</em></p><p><em>Nico Udu Gama, is an organizer against militarism and imperialism. As part of the climate justice organization </em><a href="http://350.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>350.org</u></em></a><em>, he is helping to coordinate the </em><a href="https://www.makebillionairespay.us/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Make Billionaires Pay </em></a><em>mobilization on September 20th. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the mobilization.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, what does “Draw the Line” mean? I mean, “Make Billionaires Pay” is very clear, obvious, but the broader global actions are under this banner of “Draw the Line.” Can you explain that? That's a vague term.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Nico Udu Gama:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, yeah. Definitely. Draw the Line comes out of a or there was some Indigenous groups in Brazil coming outta the Amazon who came together to form the G9 group of the indigenous of indigenous communities in Brazil. And they came forward with this idea that COP30, that's happening, the conference of parties, the UN Conference of Parties that happens every year around climate talks with the un. this year will be in Belen in Brazil. So that's the 30th one that's happened.&nbsp;</p><p>And they said that COP needs to be the needs to where the social movements draw a line against fossil fuels, fossil fuel extraction and the influence of fossil fuel billionaires in these climate talks.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING NICO UDU GAMA - <em>A series of climate justice actions around the world this month, seeks to “Draw the Line” on numerous interconnected issues plaguing people and the planet. Organized by </em><a href="http://350.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>350.org</u></em></a><em> and other groups, Draw the Line addresses “injustice, pollution, and violence, and for a future built on clean energy, and fairness.” In the US, the main action takes place in New York on September 20th under the banner of “Make Billionaires Pay”</em></p><p><em>Nico Udu Gama, is an organizer against militarism and imperialism. As part of the climate justice organization </em><a href="http://350.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>350.org</u></em></a><em>, he is helping to coordinate the </em><a href="https://www.makebillionairespay.us/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Make Billionaires Pay </em></a><em>mobilization on September 20th. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about the mobilization.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So, what does “Draw the Line” mean? I mean, “Make Billionaires Pay” is very clear, obvious, but the broader global actions are under this banner of “Draw the Line.” Can you explain that? That's a vague term.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Nico Udu Gama:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, yeah. Definitely. Draw the Line comes out of a or there was some Indigenous groups in Brazil coming outta the Amazon who came together to form the G9 group of the indigenous of indigenous communities in Brazil. And they came forward with this idea that COP30, that's happening, the conference of parties, the UN Conference of Parties that happens every year around climate talks with the un. this year will be in Belen in Brazil. So that's the 30th one that's happened.&nbsp;</p><p>And they said that COP needs to be the needs to where the social movements draw a line against fossil fuels, fossil fuel extraction and the influence of fossil fuel billionaires in these climate talks.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING CONRAD SHAW &amp; CORINE OLARTE-VANDERVOORT - What if everyone had a guaranteed basic income that covered their cost of living, without conditions, without means testing, without question? That’s the question an ambitious documentary called <a href="https://palebluedotmedia.com/bootstraps?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><u>Bootstraps</u></a> set out to answer over nearly a decade. Twenty individuals from all walks of life were given a basic income of $1000 a month over several years.&nbsp;</p><p>Sonali Kolhatkar <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rByVpGpxxzE&ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><u>interviewed</u></a> the filmmakers Deia Schlossberg and Conrad Shaw at The People’s Summit in Chicago in 2017. </p><p>At the 2025 Netroots Nation conference,  Kolhatkar reconnected with Shaw and one of the subjects of the documentary, Corine Olarte-VanderVoort, to find out how the experiment went and what the next steps are for the work of a Universal Basic Income.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Conrad, we connected at Netroots and remembered that we had spoken at the People’s Summit about your documentary Bootstraps. First, remind our audience about Bootstraps and the idea that it was important to find out what would happen if people had a basic source of income that they knew they could rely on.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Conrad Shaw:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, what we found—and we were coming from filmmaking space—is that at the heart of the questions that people have about basic income,&nbsp;&nbsp;once you get beyond sort of the wonky economics questions, it always boils down to can we really trust people? There're these human nature questions, human behavioral questions and that's what documentary is really equipped to explore.&nbsp;</p><p>So, we decided instead of bringing out experts and talking heads that the best experts to look to with basic income would be those actually living and experiencing it.&nbsp;</p><p>So, we put together a basic income program with people from all over the country receiving a basic income for a couple of years. So just so that we could do a sort of fly on the wall, verite coverage of it, just find out like what actually, what makes people tick and like how does it affect people's lives.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING Dr. ROBERT STEINBROOK - <em>In a contentious </em><a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/09/04/rfk-senate-hearing-cdc-vaccines-hhs-trump?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Senate hearing</u></em></a><em> that, at times devolved into a screaming match, Health and Human Services secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr. attempted to defend his record.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Senators questioned his mass firings at the agency, his cuts to critical services including COVID-19 vaccine access, and his unscientific claims about public health.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>RFK Jr.’s testimony was riddled with contradictions. For example, he asserted that President Donald Trump deserved the Nobel prize for Operation Warp Speed, which yielded the COVID-19 vaccine. But he also claimed the vaccine didn’t work.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Dr. Robert Steinbrook is the director of </em><a href="http://www.citizen.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Public Citizen</em></a><em>'s Health Research Group and a Professor Adjunct of Internal Medicine at the Yale School of Medicine. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about RFK Jr.'s Senate hearing and what states are doing to fill the dangerous gaps in public health. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Well of course, most of us who knew RFKs record before he was brought on by Trump to lead this agency were deeply, deeply concerned that here was an anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist who's going to be in one of the top health positions in the nation. Were you surprised at just how unscientific, to put it mildly, RFK appeared at his Senate hearing last week?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dr. Robert Steinbrook:</strong>&nbsp;Well, we opposed Secretary Kennedy's nomination. We spoke out urging the Senate not to confirm him. In fact, one of the statements from co-president basically said that no senator should have voted to confirm him, but he was confirmed.&nbsp;</p><p>And in a sense, we would've been delighted to be proved wrong, in other words that our concerns were not justified. But I think you and everybody else who watched the testimony last week, this was what was to be expected, unfortunately. And it has put us in very much uncharted territory for the future of public health in this country.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING Dr. ROBERT STEINBROOK - <em>In a contentious </em><a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/09/04/rfk-senate-hearing-cdc-vaccines-hhs-trump?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Senate hearing</u></em></a><em> that, at times devolved into a screaming match, Health and Human Services secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr. attempted to defend his record.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Senators questioned his mass firings at the agency, his cuts to critical services including COVID-19 vaccine access, and his unscientific claims about public health.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>RFK Jr.’s testimony was riddled with contradictions. For example, he asserted that President Donald Trump deserved the Nobel prize for Operation Warp Speed, which yielded the COVID-19 vaccine. But he also claimed the vaccine didn’t work.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Dr. Robert Steinbrook is the director of </em><a href="http://www.citizen.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Public Citizen</em></a><em>'s Health Research Group and a Professor Adjunct of Internal Medicine at the Yale School of Medicine. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about RFK Jr.'s Senate hearing and what states are doing to fill the dangerous gaps in public health. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Well of course, most of us who knew RFKs record before he was brought on by Trump to lead this agency were deeply, deeply concerned that here was an anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist who's going to be in one of the top health positions in the nation. Were you surprised at just how unscientific, to put it mildly, RFK appeared at his Senate hearing last week?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dr. Robert Steinbrook:</strong>&nbsp;Well, we opposed Secretary Kennedy's nomination. We spoke out urging the Senate not to confirm him. In fact, one of the statements from co-president basically said that no senator should have voted to confirm him, but he was confirmed.&nbsp;</p><p>And in a sense, we would've been delighted to be proved wrong, in other words that our concerns were not justified. But I think you and everybody else who watched the testimony last week, this was what was to be expected, unfortunately. And it has put us in very much uncharted territory for the future of public health in this country.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING EDUARDO DELGADO - <em>&nbsp;Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents conducted the largest ever workplace raid in the US on September 4th. More than 500 federal agents descended in a military-style operation on a </em><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/07/us/hyundai-ice-raid-legal-latinos-detained-intl-latam?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Hyundai EV battery plant</u></em></a><em> in the town of Ellebell in south eastern Georgia, and carted off 475 people.&nbsp;</em></p><p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/07/us/hyundai-ice-raid-legal-latinos-detained-intl-latam?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>CNN reports</u></em></a><em> that many of those arrested had valid work permits and when they offered their paperwork to ICE agents, the agents marked them as unauthorized workers and arrested them anyway. The Department of Homeland Security claims all workers arrested were undocumented.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>About 300 of the workers are </em><a href="https://apnews.com/article/us-south-korea-ice-raid-georgia-hyundai-ee8781d965c74a5ee18525ce87959ba4?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>South Korean</u></em></a><em> and are being flown to South Korea as part of a diplomatic deal with the U.S. The rest are largely Latin American.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Eduardo Delgado is the Civic and Advocacy Coordinator at Migrant Equity SouthEast in South Georgia.&nbsp;His organization is working closely with families impacted by the raid, including </em><a href="https://migrant-equity-southeast.snwbll.com/migrant-equity-southeast?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>raising funds</em></a><em> for them. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what happened and how the public can support workers.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Tell me first what the situation was like. This is a relatively rural part of the state. I cannot imagine what it looks like to have a military style operation with 500 essentially armed agents of the state descending upon this, this campus, this work campus. How has the community been responding? What has the scene been like in that area?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Eduardo Delgado:</strong>&nbsp;Absolutely. so yes, as you mentioned, Ellabell is a very rural community. The main town is comprised of a gas station and the Dollar General. So this is an extremely small community where, an operation like this wasn't really expected in the large number that we saw.&nbsp;</p><p>Migrant Equity Southeast has been monitoring reports from community at Hyundai for a few months now, ever since the beginning of the second Trump administration. We have been in contact with many of the senator's office, Senators Warnock, and Ossoff to you know make sure that they pay attention to this issue, to make sure that community is protected.&nbsp;</p><p>But when it came down to it, you know a lot of the folks that we were counting on let us down, a lot of folks in the government. And so, what the community is feeling right now, essentially is abandonment. They're, they're feeling persecuted. They feel hated and right now they're scared.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING EDUARDO DELGADO - <em>&nbsp;Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents conducted the largest ever workplace raid in the US on September 4th. More than 500 federal agents descended in a military-style operation on a </em><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/07/us/hyundai-ice-raid-legal-latinos-detained-intl-latam?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>Hyundai EV battery plant</u></em></a><em> in the town of Ellebell in south eastern Georgia, and carted off 475 people.&nbsp;</em></p><p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/07/us/hyundai-ice-raid-legal-latinos-detained-intl-latam?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>CNN reports</u></em></a><em> that many of those arrested had valid work permits and when they offered their paperwork to ICE agents, the agents marked them as unauthorized workers and arrested them anyway. The Department of Homeland Security claims all workers arrested were undocumented.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>About 300 of the workers are </em><a href="https://apnews.com/article/us-south-korea-ice-raid-georgia-hyundai-ee8781d965c74a5ee18525ce87959ba4?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>South Korean</u></em></a><em> and are being flown to South Korea as part of a diplomatic deal with the U.S. The rest are largely Latin American.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Eduardo Delgado is the Civic and Advocacy Coordinator at Migrant Equity SouthEast in South Georgia.&nbsp;His organization is working closely with families impacted by the raid, including </em><a href="https://migrant-equity-southeast.snwbll.com/migrant-equity-southeast?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>raising funds</em></a><em> for them. He spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what happened and how the public can support workers.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Tell me first what the situation was like. This is a relatively rural part of the state. I cannot imagine what it looks like to have a military style operation with 500 essentially armed agents of the state descending upon this, this campus, this work campus. How has the community been responding? What has the scene been like in that area?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Eduardo Delgado:</strong>&nbsp;Absolutely. so yes, as you mentioned, Ellabell is a very rural community. The main town is comprised of a gas station and the Dollar General. So this is an extremely small community where, an operation like this wasn't really expected in the large number that we saw.&nbsp;</p><p>Migrant Equity Southeast has been monitoring reports from community at Hyundai for a few months now, ever since the beginning of the second Trump administration. We have been in contact with many of the senator's office, Senators Warnock, and Ossoff to you know make sure that they pay attention to this issue, to make sure that community is protected.&nbsp;</p><p>But when it came down to it, you know a lot of the folks that we were counting on let us down, a lot of folks in the government. And so, what the community is feeling right now, essentially is abandonment. They're, they're feeling persecuted. They feel hated and right now they're scared.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DR. BEVERLY DANIEL TATUM - <em>Nearly all schools reopen the day after Labor Day and, as students and teachers go back to school in the fall of 2025, on top of many people’s minds are the perils that modern-day conservatism poses to higher education in particular. </em></p><p><em>From the push-back against affirmative action and diversity initiatives, to the attacks on campus free speech, politicians seem hell-bent on attacking colleges for precisely the reasons that make them centers of learning: critical thinking and the freedom to explore ideas.</em></p><p><em>Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum is president emerita of Spelman College, and author of four books, including the bestseller </em><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/beverly-daniel-tatum/why-are-all-the-black-kids-sitting-together-in-the-cafeteria/9781541616585/?lens=basic-books&ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?</em></a><em> Her latest book is </em><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/beverly-daniel-tatum/peril-and-promise/9781668652220/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Peril and Promise: College Leadership in Turbulent Times</em></a><em>. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about her new book. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I don't want to spend too much time on the problems on the perils part of this question because this show is one that focuses on solutions, so I'm really interested in the promise, but how do you summarize the problems? I threw out a few things that are really impacting college campuses today, particularly the experiences of students, which is ultimately the most important thing. How do you summarize what you as President Emerita of Spelman are most concerned about what kids are facing, what young people are facing on campuses today?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum:</strong>&nbsp;It's a great question because as you mentioned, there are many challenges that administrators, college leaders have to think about. But from a student perspective, I think what is probably most important is having access to education, both from an affordability point of view but also from a sense of belonging.&nbsp;</p><p>If you enter into a campus community and don't feel like you belong there, you're not likely to stay there. And if you don't stay, you're not likely to complete.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING DR. BEVERLY DANIEL TATUM - <em>Nearly all schools reopen the day after Labor Day and, as students and teachers go back to school in the fall of 2025, on top of many people’s minds are the perils that modern-day conservatism poses to higher education in particular. </em></p><p><em>From the push-back against affirmative action and diversity initiatives, to the attacks on campus free speech, politicians seem hell-bent on attacking colleges for precisely the reasons that make them centers of learning: critical thinking and the freedom to explore ideas.</em></p><p><em>Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum is president emerita of Spelman College, and author of four books, including the bestseller </em><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/beverly-daniel-tatum/why-are-all-the-black-kids-sitting-together-in-the-cafeteria/9781541616585/?lens=basic-books&ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria?</em></a><em> Her latest book is </em><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/beverly-daniel-tatum/peril-and-promise/9781668652220/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Peril and Promise: College Leadership in Turbulent Times</em></a><em>. She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about her new book. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;I don't want to spend too much time on the problems on the perils part of this question because this show is one that focuses on solutions, so I'm really interested in the promise, but how do you summarize the problems? I threw out a few things that are really impacting college campuses today, particularly the experiences of students, which is ultimately the most important thing. How do you summarize what you as President Emerita of Spelman are most concerned about what kids are facing, what young people are facing on campuses today?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Dr. Beverly Daniel Tatum:</strong>&nbsp;It's a great question because as you mentioned, there are many challenges that administrators, college leaders have to think about. But from a student perspective, I think what is probably most important is having access to education, both from an affordability point of view but also from a sense of belonging.&nbsp;</p><p>If you enter into a campus community and don't feel like you belong there, you're not likely to stay there. And if you don't stay, you're not likely to complete.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING ANDREANECIA MORRIS - <em>This week marks the 20th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, a Category 3 storm that devastated the Gulf Coast of the United States and especially the majority-Black city of New Orleans. When the city’s levee system broke, it flooded New Orleans leaving untold numbers of residents waiting for days for rescue. The official death toll was about 1,400 and the damage to homes and other infrastructure ran into the hundreds of billions of dollars.</em></p><p><em>Today, housing remains the biggest challenge to a city that is one of the nation’s most treasured centers of culture and history. What is the status of housing in New Orleans and how are advocates working to renew and rebuild?</em></p><p><em>Andreanecia M. Morris is the Executive Director of </em><a href="https://www.housingnola.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>HousingNOLA</u></em></a><em>, a 10-year partnership between the community leaders, and dozens of public, private, and nonprofit organizations working to solve New Orleans’ affordable housing crisis. She is also president of the Greater New Orleans Housing Alliance.&nbsp;She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what it will take to make housing in New Orleans affordable, especially for its original residents. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So first, when we think about the devastation, obviously the numbers of people lost and of course then the devastation to families at losing their loved ones is something that just can't be measured. And I'm wondering if we can start off with a general look at the pain, the scars, if you will, of Hurricane Katrina.&nbsp;It's been 20 years. A generation has grown up into adulthood since after the storm, and yet how deep are those scars still in the city?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Andreanecia Morris:</strong>&nbsp;So there's been a lot of efforts mostly on people on the ground and some key leaders to take the time to address those issues, the inequities. But mostly we've just been fighting to rebuild and fighting to come home.&nbsp;</p><p>And, and so that's one of the big challenges is that there was a generation of children. There was a recent documentary called Katrina Babies, the children who grew up, many of whom were in their formative years when Katrina happened and were evacuated and grew up with that trauma at that such a formative stage. It's, it's really similar to what people are seeing with COVID babies. What we, what we're gonna see is the COVID generation.&nbsp;</p><p>And, so we've been talking about how we deal with that. </p>
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<p>FEATURING ANDREANECIA MORRIS - <em>This week marks the 20th anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, a Category 3 storm that devastated the Gulf Coast of the United States and especially the majority-Black city of New Orleans. When the city’s levee system broke, it flooded New Orleans leaving untold numbers of residents waiting for days for rescue. The official death toll was about 1,400 and the damage to homes and other infrastructure ran into the hundreds of billions of dollars.</em></p><p><em>Today, housing remains the biggest challenge to a city that is one of the nation’s most treasured centers of culture and history. What is the status of housing in New Orleans and how are advocates working to renew and rebuild?</em></p><p><em>Andreanecia M. Morris is the Executive Director of </em><a href="https://www.housingnola.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>HousingNOLA</u></em></a><em>, a 10-year partnership between the community leaders, and dozens of public, private, and nonprofit organizations working to solve New Orleans’ affordable housing crisis. She is also president of the Greater New Orleans Housing Alliance.&nbsp;She spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about what it will take to make housing in New Orleans affordable, especially for its original residents. </em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So first, when we think about the devastation, obviously the numbers of people lost and of course then the devastation to families at losing their loved ones is something that just can't be measured. And I'm wondering if we can start off with a general look at the pain, the scars, if you will, of Hurricane Katrina.&nbsp;It's been 20 years. A generation has grown up into adulthood since after the storm, and yet how deep are those scars still in the city?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Andreanecia Morris:</strong>&nbsp;So there's been a lot of efforts mostly on people on the ground and some key leaders to take the time to address those issues, the inequities. But mostly we've just been fighting to rebuild and fighting to come home.&nbsp;</p><p>And, and so that's one of the big challenges is that there was a generation of children. There was a recent documentary called Katrina Babies, the children who grew up, many of whom were in their formative years when Katrina happened and were evacuated and grew up with that trauma at that such a formative stage. It's, it's really similar to what people are seeing with COVID babies. What we, what we're gonna see is the COVID generation.&nbsp;</p><p>And, so we've been talking about how we deal with that. </p>
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<p>FEATURING RICHARD WALLACE - <em>Thousands of people </em><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/chicago-thousands-protest-against-threat-ice-national-guard-deployment-2025-09-01/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>marched in Chicago</u></em></a><em> on Labor Day against Donald Trump’s threats to deploy National Guard troops and ICE agents across the city.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson addressed protesters saying, “This is the city that will defend the country.” Trump has called Chicago a “hellhole,” “killing field,” and the “murder capital of the world.”&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>But Chicagoans are determined to resist, in particular Black-led abolitionist groups who have long fought against the over-policing of their communities.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Richard Wallace is an author, organizer, and the Founding Executive Director of </em><a href="https://www.eatchicago.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Equity and Transformation (EAT)</em></a><em>, an organization dedicated to advancing social and economic equity for Black informal workers. Under his leadership, EAT launched the Chicago Future Fund in 2021, a groundbreaking Guaranteed Income pilot for formerly incarcerated individuals.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Wallace spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how he and others are leading Chicago's resistance to Trump's militarism.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So first let's just address Trump's obvious maligning of Chicago. He has used a lot of names against the city. What is your response to that?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Richard Wallace:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, I think my response like anyone else's is that this is one more soundbite to add to the many others that just creates a lot of fog around, like the reality that we're currently living in, right? Like, we don't know what's what, when, what is gonna happen or how it's gonna happen. But these threats are, I think they're centered around Chicago's most vulnerable communities.&nbsp;</p><p>So regardless of when they happen, we have to be prepared and we have to educate our communities to the best of our ability on what they can do to keep themselves safe.&nbsp;</p>
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<p>FEATURING RICHARD WALLACE - <em>Thousands of people </em><a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/chicago-thousands-protest-against-threat-ice-national-guard-deployment-2025-09-01/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>marched in Chicago</u></em></a><em> on Labor Day against Donald Trump’s threats to deploy National Guard troops and ICE agents across the city.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson addressed protesters saying, “This is the city that will defend the country.” Trump has called Chicago a “hellhole,” “killing field,” and the “murder capital of the world.”&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>But Chicagoans are determined to resist, in particular Black-led abolitionist groups who have long fought against the over-policing of their communities.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Richard Wallace is an author, organizer, and the Founding Executive Director of </em><a href="https://www.eatchicago.org/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Equity and Transformation (EAT)</em></a><em>, an organization dedicated to advancing social and economic equity for Black informal workers. Under his leadership, EAT launched the Chicago Future Fund in 2021, a groundbreaking Guaranteed Income pilot for formerly incarcerated individuals.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Wallace spoke with Sonali Kolhatkar about how he and others are leading Chicago's resistance to Trump's militarism.</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;So first let's just address Trump's obvious maligning of Chicago. He has used a lot of names against the city. What is your response to that?&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Richard Wallace:</strong>&nbsp;Yeah, I think my response like anyone else's is that this is one more soundbite to add to the many others that just creates a lot of fog around, like the reality that we're currently living in, right? Like, we don't know what's what, when, what is gonna happen or how it's gonna happen. But these threats are, I think they're centered around Chicago's most vulnerable communities.&nbsp;</p><p>So regardless of when they happen, we have to be prepared and we have to educate our communities to the best of our ability on what they can do to keep themselves safe.&nbsp;</p>
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<p><em>Americans love unions. The idea of workers banding together to demand their rights from employers is so powerful, </em><a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/05/22/americans-support-business-over-labor?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>a recent poll</u></em></a><em> found that unions are more popular than big corporations by a wide margin. In fact, according to the Economic Policy Institute, </em><a href="https://www.epi.org/publication/millions-of-workers-millions-of-workers-want-to-join-unions-but-couldnt/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>16 million more workers joined unions</u></em></a><em> in 2024, and millions more wanted to join unions but couldn’t.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Ahead of Labor Day 2025, we’ll turn to Shaun Richman, a former labor organizer turned academic and author who teaches labor history at SUNY Empire State University. He is the author of </em><a href="https://monthlyreview.org/product/tell-the-bosses-were-coming/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Tell the Bosses We’re Coming: A New Action Plan for Workers in the Twenty-First Century</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><em>His latest book is </em><a href="https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=p088537&ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>We Always Had a Union: The New York Hotel Workers’ Union, 1912-1953</em></a><em>. The book is a seminal history of how hotel workers in New York City organized more than a hundred years ago, offering a powerful history lesson for today, especially in light of the anti-worker, anti-union policies of the Trump administration.&nbsp;</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let's talk about the origins of the industry, where this group of workers whose history you write, originated. We think today of hotels—your story is about hotel workers—we think today about, of hotels as being very much part of any modern society. But in New York, in the early 1900s, it was, and even nationwide, really, it wasn't a very common thing to have big hotels. And which of course then begins the impetus for workers wanting to organize. So tell us that origin story of the industry itself.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Shaun Richman:</strong>&nbsp;Right. Well, you had, you had public houses and you had inns, which was, you know, a person would have a house with an extra room or two. And that was very common, very connected to either a railroad travel or stagecoach travel. What New York invented, and really it was, it was the first families of New York that invented it were factories of pleasure.&nbsp;</p><p>And, what they did is they actually, they cannibalized their own real estate. Ffifth Avenue from like 35th Street to 42nd Street was a row of just millionaires’ mansions until William Astor tore his own home down and turned it into the Waldorf Hotel.&nbsp;</p>
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<p><em>Americans love unions. The idea of workers banding together to demand their rights from employers is so powerful, </em><a href="https://www.axios.com/2025/05/22/americans-support-business-over-labor?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>a recent poll</u></em></a><em> found that unions are more popular than big corporations by a wide margin. In fact, according to the Economic Policy Institute, </em><a href="https://www.epi.org/publication/millions-of-workers-millions-of-workers-want-to-join-unions-but-couldnt/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com"><em><u>16 million more workers joined unions</u></em></a><em> in 2024, and millions more wanted to join unions but couldn’t.&nbsp;</em></p><p><em>Ahead of Labor Day 2025, we’ll turn to Shaun Richman, a former labor organizer turned academic and author who teaches labor history at SUNY Empire State University. He is the author of </em><a href="https://monthlyreview.org/product/tell-the-bosses-were-coming/?ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>Tell the Bosses We’re Coming: A New Action Plan for Workers in the Twenty-First Century</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><em>His latest book is </em><a href="https://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/?id=p088537&ref=risingupwithsonali.com" rel="noreferrer"><em>We Always Had a Union: The New York Hotel Workers’ Union, 1912-1953</em></a><em>. The book is a seminal history of how hotel workers in New York City organized more than a hundred years ago, offering a powerful history lesson for today, especially in light of the anti-worker, anti-union policies of the Trump administration.&nbsp;</em></p><p><strong>ROUGH TRANSCRIPT: </strong></p><p><strong>Sonali Kolhatkar:</strong>&nbsp;Let's talk about the origins of the industry, where this group of workers whose history you write, originated. We think today of hotels—your story is about hotel workers—we think today about, of hotels as being very much part of any modern society. But in New York, in the early 1900s, it was, and even nationwide, really, it wasn't a very common thing to have big hotels. And which of course then begins the impetus for workers wanting to organize. So tell us that origin story of the industry itself.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Shaun Richman:</strong>&nbsp;Right. Well, you had, you had public houses and you had inns, which was, you know, a person would have a house with an extra room or two. And that was very common, very connected to either a railroad travel or stagecoach travel. What New York invented, and really it was, it was the first families of New York that invented it were factories of pleasure.&nbsp;</p><p>And, what they did is they actually, they cannibalized their own real estate. Ffifth Avenue from like 35th Street to 42nd Street was a row of just millionaires’ mansions until William Astor tore his own home down and turned it into the Waldorf Hotel.&nbsp;</p>
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