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FEATURING RUTGER BREGMAN – Imagine a life where you didn’t need to work more than 15 hours a week to make ends meet. One where you weren’t restricted by the place of your birth and the stamp on your passport. And where financial worries were not the main driver of your major life decisions. Sounds like Utopia right?

But what if such a world were actually far more within our reach than we thought? It turns out that long-term trends show that humans as a whole are actually moving in this very direction and that there is already plenty of research proving that the time has come to realize such a utopia.

Read excerpts from Utopia for Realists online at

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Rutger Bregman, best-selling author of Utopia for Realists, one of Europe’s most prominent young thinkers.

**This interview was originally broadcast on August 22, 2016.

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