I've enjoyed Ted Rall's progressive political cartoons for years. So I was excited when he reached out to my publisher for an interview about my new book, Breaking ICE: Community Defense Against State Terror and MAGA Fascism.

At first, Ted stood me up. Then, he rescheduled a few weeks later. Okay, I'm a forgiving, easy-going type. I agreed to a rescheduled interview.

Then, this past Wednesday, I jumped on the live video stream of the show, ready for the interview. What transpired was 48 minutes of Ted and his co-host Jamarl throwing rightwing talking points at me about how, setting aside ICE's abuses, all nations have the right to have immigration enforcement, don't they? I pushed back on this premise, making the point that borders are imaginary, people are real. And nations--at least democratic ones--have rules that we-the-people set, so why don't we change our notions of who gets to belong and who doesn't? Why don't we pour our money into the things that actually keep us safe (education, healthcare, etc).

The two men weren't having it, even though they conceded agreement on every point I made. Eventually, after I hinted that it would be nice to ACTUALLY DISCUSS MY BOOK, we spent a few minutes talking about it. But then, after saying goodbye to me, Ted and Jamarl brought on their racist, rightwing white producer named Robby who spent 20 minutes incoherently spewing MAGA talking points and calling me a "heifer" who ought to be immediately deported.

WATCH THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THEIR HATE BELOW:

Ted and Jamarl laughed it off, and carried on. These men brushed off a call to deport me like it was nothing. Because, to them, Robby's knee-jerk rage-baiting was a reasonable response to an immigrant woman of color whose views they disagreed with. They might as well have screeched "OFF WITH HER HEAD!"

This is why I do what I do. When white supremacists are the only ones telling the stories of immigration, race, economy, justice, history, and human rights, we get a skewed, perverse echo of our democracy.

With "liberal media" like Ted Rall's show, who needs Fox News?

Please watch the full interview here and feel free to tell me what you think, or post comments letting the hosts know what you think.

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AND NOW.... HERE are the stories I published this week on Rising Up With Sonali:

Can Nepal Disaster Spur Global Action on Climate Change?

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SAVIO CARVALHO: "[C]hange is possible. The faster we cut emissions, the more lives we save, the more ecosystems survive, and the better future we have for this planet and for the people. And we have solutions. We can prevent this overshoot and its catastrophic impacts."

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Can US Democracy Survive Attacks on Vote-by-Mail?

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CHRISTOPHER SHAW: "There is the risk that people will see the potential chaos, they'll see the disorder, they'll see the confusion, and that this could deter some people from voting. And it could also create a situation, and President Trump did this in 2020, where he suggested that there was all kinds of problems with fraud in the voting and therefore sort of paved the way to then claim that there were problems with the election itself."

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Corporate media's goal is to leave you feeling overwhelmed and accept the status quo.

Rising Up With Sonali reminds you of all the ways YOU HAVE POWER

Flock “Donated” Cameras to Altadena After the Fires. Now, Residents Want them gone

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MOHAMMAD TAJSAR: "This is a tried-and-true playbook from technology vendors who are trying to get in on the public market. They'll offer a pilot program. They'll say, "Hey, take some of our cameras. We may offer it to you for free, or maybe we'll sell you a small batch of them," probably a small batch that will cost not very much and will be a low enough expenditure that it doesn't require going to city council or informing the public that you're going to buy them."

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BONUS EPISODE: Rising Up to Demand Progress

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ERIC NAING: "At Demand Progress, we have a lot of efforts going towards AI and fighting against big tech and fighting against AI-powered surveillance, and fighting against the AI companies that are trying to kind of deregulate online laws that would govern their company. So we have a team that just does AI work, and we work to educate lawmakers, frankly, of like, "Hey, there are important things happening that you need to pay attention. There's AI that's breaking its boundaries right now." 

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If you live in or near the Seattle area, my next book tour stop is taking place at Seattle Town Hall on Monday September 28. Click here to RSVP!

Sonali Kolhatkar with Josefina Mora-Cheung | Town Hall Seattle
Throughout America, communities have been facing increasingly aggressive state enforcement under the banner of immigration control. Under the Trump Administration, ICE has vastly increased its presence, arrests, deportations, and has even caused the death of American citizens. In the face of what many call an authoritarian crackdown, communities have come together to resist and provide aid, protection, and awareness around the presence of ICE in neighborhoods across the country. The fight against ICE is multifaceted and occurs at all different levels. Whether in the streets, through advocacy, or social organizing, a frontline has emerged which directly challenges the actions and existence of ICE and the MAGA movement. Award-winning journalist, broadcaster, and author, Sonali Kolhatkar, reports on these issues from the ground level. Her new book, Breaking ICE: Community Defense Against State Terror and MAGA Fascism, is a ripping, vivid account of the growing movement against state violence, featuring interviews with those on the frontlines of the fight for immigrant justice. Kolhatkar highlights the divide between the ICE agents, the DHS, and their supporters, terrorizing communities throughout the United States with the threat of arrest and deportation, versus the growing national movement dedicated to protecting communities, reversing racist and authoritarian policies, and otherwise challenging MAGA’s violent anti-immigration regime.
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